2124 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. In 1845 ? A. In Equator, and took 225 barrels. 



Q. In 1846 what vessel ? A. Equator, on our shores. 



Q. In 1847 what vessel? A. The Far West. I built the vessel, and 

 the owners insisted on the vessel coming to the bay. 



Q. You did not like British waters for mackerel-fishing ! A. No. 



Q. What year did the Far West come down to the bay ? A. 1848. 



Q. The owners insisted on the vessel coming down. They knew 

 better than you did ? A. They thought they knew better than I did. 



Q. What did you get ? A. About 240 barrels. 



Q. And the next year, 1849, what vessel were you in in the bay ? A. 

 I was on our shores. 



Q. In 1850 what vessel ? A. I was in the bay one trip in the Far 

 West, and got 160 barrels. 



Q. In 1851 where were you ? A. On our shores. 



Q. And in 1852 ? A. In the bay. 



Q. In what vessel ? A. Far West. We got 250 barrels. 



Q. The owners still forced you there ? A. Yes ; it was the year of 

 the gale. 



Q. No ; 1851 was the year of the gale. What did yon take on your 

 own coast in the year of the gale ? A. 500 barrels. 



Q. How many trips? A. That was for the whole season, from 1st 

 May to 1st November. 



Q. In 1853 where were you ? A. On our shores. 



Q. And in 1854 ? A.- In the bay. 



Q. How many barrels did you get ? A. 225. 



Q. In the same vessel ? A. Yes. 



Q. In 1855 where were you ? A. On our shores. 



Q. And in 1856 ? A. In the bay. 



Q. How many barrels did you get? A. 60 barrels, in the same vessel. 



Q. The owners were evidently comparing the value of the bay fishing 

 with the fishing on your shores, for they sent the vessel to each in alter- 

 nate years. Where were you in 1857 ? A. I was piloting on the Amer- 

 ican coast. 



Q. Where were you in 1858 ? A. In Bay Chaleurs, schooner Elliott; 

 we got 280 barrels. 



Q. You have said you took all your catches off the shore. Did you 

 ever get in sight of the land ? A". Yes. 



Q. Where ? A. At St. John's Island. I saw it the last time. 



Q. Were you very close ? A. I was in a harbor there. 



Q. In what harbor? A. Malpeque. 



Q. Did you not cast a line overboard to see if mackerel were there ? 

 A. No. I had no desire to do so. 



Q. You would not have taken them if you could have got them ? A. 

 With a northeast wind blowing and night coming on, would you heave 

 to to catch mackerel with a vessel on which there were 225 barrels ? 



Q. You were in the harbor of Malpeque ? A. Yes. 



Q. What were you doing there ! A. I went there out of the way of 

 the storm. 



Q. Why did you not fish there ? A. In the harbor I 



Q. When you went out next day. A. If 1 had desired I could have 

 done so ; I had no desire. 



Q. Why did you not fish ? A. Because I did not like inshore mack- 

 erel. 



Q. You call them eel-grass mackerel ? A. I do. 



Q. You never caught any mackerel within ten miles of the shore in 



