2138 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Where have your cod-fishing vessels obtained their bait; have 

 they bought any ? A. Yes. 



Q. At what places ? A. At Eastport, Campobello Island, Shelburne, 

 Prospect, and all down the coast, and at Newfoundland. 



Q. What do you say as to the profitableness of cod-fishing vessels go- 

 ing in from the fishing-grounds to buy bait? A. I have no doubt at all 

 it is an injury to us. 



Q. Explain why. A. The vessels lose one-half their time. 



Q. Do you mean half their time ? A. More than half their time. It 

 takes a vessel to go to the Grand Banks with a fishing-crew and get 

 150,000 fish, three or four months. More than one-half of that time they 

 are going away seeking bait. 



Q. Is that necessary, or do they do it because they prefer it to fish- 

 ing? A. There may be some inducement in the good spirit, good drink, 

 in this country. 



Q. Do you think they come in unnecessarily ? A. I do. 



Q. And you prefer your vessels not to go in and buy bait? A. Yes; 

 and to take salt bait from home. 



Q. Did your cod-fishing vessels fish with trawls or hand-lines? A. 

 With trawls. 



Q. I think you had a couple of vessels seized ? A. Yes. 



Q. What was the first one ? A. The schooner Helen Maria, in 1832. 



Q. Where was she taken ? A. In Publico Harbor. 



Q. What was the name of the captain ? A. Captain Finney, belong- 

 ing to Argyle, Nova Scotia. 



Q. What did you understand she was seized for ? A. She was taken 

 by Captain Cowie. She was detained about eight weeks, when word 

 was sent to us to come and take our vessel. 



Q. Was there any trial ? A. No. 



Q. Was that a cod-fishing vessel ? A. Yes. 



Q. Had you any other vessel seized f A. The White Fawn. 



Q. Where was she seized ? A. At Campobello Island. 



Q. What year was that? A. The fall of 1870. 



Q. She was restored after trial ? A. She had no trial. 



Q. The White Fawn ? A. She had no trial. 



Q. Do you remember who the judge was? A. I forget the judge's 

 name. 



Q. Who was the counsel conducting the prosecution ? A. Mr. Tuck. 



Q. You say there was no trial : did you not employ a lawyer ? 

 A. No. 



By Mr. Weatherbe : 



Q. When did you last fish yourself ? A. In the fall of I860. 



Q. Where did you fish that year ? A. On Banks Bradley and Or- 

 phan and north of Magdalen Islands. 



Q. How many barrels did you catch ? A. About 380. 



Q. In 1859, how many barrels did you catch during the season ? A. 

 About 450. 



Q. Where did you catch them ? A. At Magdalen Islands. 



Q. Altogether ? A. At Magdalen Islands and on the west shore, at 

 Gaspe*. 



Q. On the first trip, where did you go when you first entered the 

 bay ? A. I went to Banks Bradley and Orphan. 



Q. How long did you fish there ? A. I do not remember the number 

 of days. 



Q. What proportion of time did you spend on Bank Bradley one- 



