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wind might be blowing from the east and the tide setting in a westerly 

 direction. 



By Mr. Weatherbe : 



Q. Then, if I understand you, you never heard of such a thing as lee- 

 bowing boats these small boats? A. Never in my life. 



Q. You have described what lee-bowing is; what is it? A. If you 

 were in a vessel laying to, and I came along, and when I got within half 

 or three-quarters of a mile, according to the headway, hauled the jib 

 and came along by you, threw out a little bait as I came alongside your 

 vessel, and then went ahead of your vessel and took the fish away. 



Q. It is quite possible, quite probable, that it could be done ? A . 

 Some might do it, but I would not. 



Q. You would not think it right to do it ? A. I would not dare to do 

 it, even if I thought it right. 



Q. Is it not easily done ? A. No ; I never tried it. 



Q. You would not, as a sailor, undertake to say that it could not be 

 done ? A. I don't think it is impossible. 



Q. Is it not quite easily done ? A. I don't know that. 



Q. I want your opinion ? A. I never knew of it being done. 



Q. You cannot undertake to say it is not easily done ? A. I tell you, 

 I don't know. I would not dare to do it. 



Q. I want you to say whether it can be done or not ? A. I could not 

 answer the question. I would not dare to do it. 



Q. Can you not give your opinion as a sailor ? A. No; I never under- 

 took it. 



Q. Could you not undertake to do it? A. I would do some things 

 now which I would not have done years ago. 



Q. Between 1868 and 1876 you had five vessels fishing ? A. Yes. 



Q. And you made three mackerel trips ? A. Yes. 



Q. And you lost money by them ? A. Yes. 



Q. Where did the vessels fish ; outside of the three-mile limits ? A. I 

 could not tell you. 



Q. You have no idea where they fished ? A. No. 



Q. You had three vessels fishing in the bay; you sent them there ? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. They came home, and you lost money by the trips ? A. Yes. 



Q. And you undertake to say you do not know and never made any 

 inquiry, whether the vessels fished inshore or outside ? A. Yes. 



Q. You never made any inquiry about it? A. No. 



Q. What are the names of the vessels ? A. White Fawn, Annie Liu- 

 wood, Sarah C. Pile. 



Q. Had any of them fishing licenses from the Canadian Govern- 

 ment ? A. I could not tell you. I did not keep the books ; my partner 

 kept them. 



Q. How did you become acquainted with the license system ? A. I 

 have heard it talked over on the streets. 



Q. What did you understand it to be ? A.. That we paid for license. 



Q. During what years ? A. I could not tell you ; I have no idea what 

 years. 



Q. Was it your idea that you could get a license for the whole period 

 you fished? A. I never knew of anything about it. 



Q. Did you know that you were permitted to go and fish within three 

 miles without license at any time ? A. Under the Reciprocity Treaty 

 we could. 



Q. After the Reciprocity Treaty you could not ? A. No. 



