2144 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Is the privilege of using the inshore fishery of any use to you as 

 fishermen ? A. No. Personally I say, no. 



Q. Do you know that practically yourself! A. That is my opinion. 



Q. You never fished inshore ? A. No. 



Q. Therefore you are not able to say so from your own knowledge ? 

 A. I fished off shore for the very reason that I thought I would do bet- 

 ter there. I had a perfect right to come inshore. 



Q. You lost money, you say ? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you ever try fishing inshore 1 A. No. 



Q. But you say the privilege of inshore is of no value ? A. That is 

 my opinion. 



Q. JFor what reason ? A. I gave you my reasons. It would keep the 

 vessels out of the harbors and they would get more mackerel. 



Q. What else ? A. Then we would not have so many drafts. They lay 

 in the harbors too long, and go into harbors when it comes night. 



Q. Is it not the practice for the fishermen to run into the shore and 

 drift off, and then run in again ! A. It is not always you can drift 

 offshore. 



Q. Is the privilege of going inshore an advantage to you ? A. If the 

 mackerel were inshore, it would certainly be an advantage ; if they were 

 not inshore, it would not be an advantage. 



Q. You never tried whether the inshore was not better than the out- 

 shore fishery; why did you not try it? A. Because I thought I could 

 do better outside. 



Q. Year after year you lost money. As a business man, why did you 

 not try fishing inshore like other fishermen who have made money ? A. 

 I don't know where they are; they are very much scattered. 



Q. Why did you not try ? A. Because I thought I could do better off 

 shoje. 



Q. Do you know of any vessel which fished within three miles of the 

 shore ? A. Not personally. 



Q. Why do you say not personally ? A. Because I do not know any 

 one. I never saw them in there fishing. 



Q. Did you hear of any vessel which fished inshore? A. 1 could not 

 tell what I have heard. 



Q. Have you heard of vessels fishing inshore ? A. I could not an- 

 swer that. 



Q. Did you ever make any inquiries? A. No ; I was not interested, 



Q. You fished off shore, lost money, and never tried to fish inshore, 

 and never made any inquiries as to whether there was good fishing there 

 or not ? A. Yes. 



Q. Have you heard of 450 licenses having been taken out ? A. No ; 

 nor of 150. 



Q. Don't you think it would be a curious thing for American owners 

 to take out fishing licenses if there was no fishing inshore ? A. No, I 

 don't think it would be a curious thing. 



Q. How does it strike you ? A. If I kept six or eight skippers to go 

 in vessels, four or five would be British subjects, and when they got 

 down to the bay I could not trust them, and I would take out licenses 

 to guard myself against them. That is a plain, simple fact. 



Q. Let me remind you of what you said a few moments ago, that when 

 you sent vessels to the bay, you never made many inquiries from them ? 

 A. No. 



Q. You were not aware whether lie MI sea were issue .1 to them ? 

 A. No. / 



