2148 AWAED OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



men now in the bay from Gloucester, yon mean those in the bay, those 

 off your own shores, and all ? A. Yes. I stated that we had 200 mack- 

 erel-catchers employed. There are about 40 in the bay out of the 200. 



No. 19. 



CHARLES HENRY ORNE, master-mariner aud fisherman, of Glouces- 

 ter, called on behalf of the American Government, sworn and examined. 



By Mr. Trescot : 



Question. How old are you ? Answer. Thirty-five. 



Q. How long have you been fishing ? A. Eight seasons. 



Q. As a sharesman or master ? A. As master. 



Q. Were you fishing previously ? A. Yes ; some. 



Q. When did you begin fishing ? A. When a boy 9 years of age I 

 went on my first trip. 



Q. And you fished ever since until you became master? A. Yes; 

 more or less. 



Q. When did you become master! A. In 1864. 



Q. You have been engaged mainly in the mackerel fishery ? A. Yes. 



Q. What did you do in 1864? A. I was in the schooner Joseph Sto- 

 rey, of 55 tons register, and I went into the Gulf of St. Lawrence. 



Q. How many trips did you make that year ? A. Three. 



Q. Where did you make the first one? A. At the Magdalen Islands. 



Q. What was your catch ? A. Two hundred and seventy or 280 bar- 

 rels. 



Q. Were they taken entirely around the Magdalen Islands ? A. Yes. 

 I presume some were caught that trip within the 3 -mile limit. 



Q. Where was your second trip taken ? A. At the Magdalen Isl- 

 ands. 



Q. What was your catch then ? A. Two hundred and fifty or 260 

 barrels, or thereabouts. 



Q. Did you fish inshore a little sometimes off the Magdalen Islands ? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. What proportion did you so catch? A. I would not like to give 

 an estimate ; I do not think I could come anywhere near the real number. 



Q. Where was your third trip taken ? A. Between East Point, Prince 

 Edward Island, and Cape George, principally. 



Q. You did not fish off the Cape Breton shore that year ? A. I caught 

 all my third trip this first year, 1864, there, off Margaree Island. 



Q. How many did you catch that trip ? A. Two hundred and forty 

 barrels. 



Q. What did you catch within the limits on this trip? A. The land 

 is very high there and I had no means to determine the distance, but I 

 should judge we caught three quarters of that trip within the limits. 



Q. What did you do in 1865 ? A. I was in the same vessel in the 



gulf. 



Q. Where did you go ? A. To the Magdalen Islands. 



Q. What did you catch ? A. About a usual trip 260, 270, or 280 

 barrels, or thereabouts. That was about a full trip for the vessel. 



Q. What did you catch within the limits? A. I have no doubt that 

 we took 30 barrels. 



Q. Where did you make your first trip that year? A. I think off 

 North Cape and on Bank Bradley. 



Q. What did you catch? About a full trip. Probably 240 or 250 

 barrels. 



