2158 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



when the mackerel were returning ? A. I only fished there the year 

 when I caught a trip there, in 1864 ; that was ray last trip that year. 



By Mr. Whiteway : 



Q. On what bank were you fishing in 1865 ? A. I do not know that 

 I was fishing on any bank save Bank Bradley, and I presume I was 

 there that year. 



Q. Did I not understand you to say that between the 7th of March 

 and the 27th of June, 1865, you made two trips ? A. I did so ; you 

 have reference to cod-fishing. I caught my first trip on the Western 

 Bank. 



Q. And the second ? A. I then fished off to the southward of Cape 

 Sable. 



Q. And then you closed your cod-fishery for that year ? A. Yes ; I 

 afterwards, in the first part of July, went into the gulf. I was engaged 

 in fishing on the Banks from 1869 to 1872, inclusive, four years ; though 

 I may not have been fishing for one year during this time. 



Q. In what vessels were you? A. In the J. F. Huntress, E. L. Cook, 

 and Arequippa. 



Q. Had j'ou an interest in those vessels ? A. No. 



Q. But you were captain ? A. Yes, and that is all. 



Q. During all those years did you go to the Newfoundland coast for 

 bait ? A. I did go in iS70. 



Q. And not during the other years? A. I think not. 



Q. To what port did you go ? A. I went to St. Pierre, and from thence 

 to different places, for which there are no names I guess in Fortune Bay. 

 I was at St. Jacques, Fortune Bay. 



Q. When were you at St. Jacques? A. In June, I think. 



Q. What bait did you get there ? A. Herring. 



Q. And that was in the spring? A. I presume that it was in June. 

 I know, in fact, that this was the case. 



Q. Did you go immediately from Gloucester for bait? A. No; I took 

 some bait from Gloucester. During part of 1870 I was fresh-hali outing. 

 I took enough herring to bait up my trawls once, and then I used small 

 fish for bait. 



Q. You left Gloucester with salt bait! A. No; I took enough fresh 

 heiring to bait my trawls once; this was in 1870. If I remember right 

 I went to the Grand Bank for halibut. I did not get a trip until after 

 I bad gone in for fresh bait. 



Q. You went into St. Peter's? A. Yes. 



Q. And not being able to procure bait there you went to St. Jacques? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. Where you got fresh herring and preserved them in ice? A. Yes- 



Q. Then you went out, finished your trip, and returned to Gloucester? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. What was the result of that voyage ? A. I cannot remember. 



Q. When did you return? A. I do not remember. I made six or 

 seven trips that year. 



Q. To the Banks? A. I left Gloucester that year, if I remember 

 aright, the 1st ot January, and from that time until I hauled up I made 

 6 or 7 trips. 



Q. When did you leave oft'? A. The first part of November, as nearly 

 as I can remember. 



Q. And in the mean time you made 6 or 7 trips to the Banks? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. Did you go into any other ports in the Dominion or Newfound- 



