2162 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



engaged in cod-fishing on the Banks in the spring. What kind of bait 

 was used by your vessels ? A. Clam bait wholly. 



Q. Were your vessels hand-liners or trawlers ? A. They were hand- 

 liners, they used to fish over the rail at that time. 



Q. They didn't have boats even ! A. No ; they fished from the deck 

 of the vessel. 



Q. Did they make respectable voyages? A. Tes. 



Q. What time did they generally go into the bay ? A. From the first 

 of July to the middle of July generally. They used to make two trips. 



Q. Now, when those vessels returned did you as agent usually learn 

 where they fished ? A. Well, yes. I recollect hearing the men telling 

 about where they would get their best catches. 



Q. According to their reports where did they get their best catches ? 

 A. About the Magdalens principally. 



Q. You have been in the bay several years fishing, and you have heard 

 the reports of owners and underwriters I suppose. What do you con- 

 sider the safest part? A. We used to consider the Magdalens were 

 safe. 



Q. Why ? A. Well, on account of the wind shifting we could run 

 around the islands and make lee with almost any wind. 



Q. Now, how is it with the north side the bend of Prince Edward 

 Island ? A. That was considered the most dangerous part of the bay. 



Q. From what reasons ? A. Well, from its being quite a deep bay ; 

 if the wind came up from the southeast, to the northeast or north, the 

 sea would come up very suddenly. 



Q. Is it rather a shoal shore ? A. Yes ; we would have a heavy sea, 

 and a vessel getting in there would find it very difficult to get out with 

 it blowing heavily. 



Q. Look at the chart for a moment. (Witness refers to chart.) 



Q. Now suppose the wind was easterly, what you call an east-south- 

 east gale, and you are here (pointing to chart), what chance have you 

 to weather East Cape ? A. If you were up anywhere toward this bight 

 you would have a hard chance to get out. 



Q. Then with a gale from southeast to east-northeast, if you were 

 near inshore toward North Point, it would be difficult ? A. Yes. 



(Mr. Davies asks witness to put his finger upon the place, and witness 

 points to map, near Kildare Cape.) 



Q. If you were on the eastern part of the island, with an east south- 

 east gale, you could go where you liked ? A. Yes. 



Q. But with the wind westerly it would be dangerous about getting 

 clear of North Cape ? A. Yes. 



Q. Now, if the wind is more to northward, east-northeast to north- 

 east, how would it be if you were near shore in any part of the bend ? 

 Does not a northerly wind blow as straight into the bend as it can ? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. What chance would you have to escape a northerly gale if you 

 were close in on the north side ? A. No chance whatever. 



Q. Do you know anything about Cascumpec Harbor ! A. I was there 

 once. 



Q. How did you find it ? A. I should think it was rather a difficult 

 place to get in ; rather shoal. 



Q. Is there a heavy sea there? A. Yes; with the wind blowing in- 

 shore. 



Q. Then Malpeque, what do you think of that ? A. I have never 

 been there. 



