2172 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



the Grand Bank fishery, from Gloucester ? A. I haven't any means of 

 telling you how many. 



Q. You don't know ! A. No ; I couldn't tell how many. I should 

 think, perhaps 



Q. Never mind " perhaps." If you don't know, that is the end of it. 

 How many have you had carrying on the fishing on the Grand Banks 

 for the last seven or eight years ? A. I don't think I have averaged 

 more than five vessels, perhaps, a year for the last seven years. 



Q. Have those five vessels exclusively carried on the fishing on Grand 

 Banks? A. No, sir; they go to the Grand Banks part of the season, 

 and in other fisheries other parts. As a general thing we fit them out 

 first to go to the George's in February. 



Q. What time do they go to the Grand Banks ? A. Some of our 

 vessels don't go to the George's, and we send them to the Grand Banks 

 the first of March. 



Q. They go the first of March, having landed their trips ? A. Well, 

 some we don't send to the George's at all. 



Q. 1 am speaking now of those five that you say you are interested 

 in ; do they go to the George's first and then on the Grand Banks ? A. 

 Some do. 



Q. Then they come in and laud their fare, and go to the Grand Banks 

 the first of March. Is that it ? A. No ; those that go to the George's 

 don't come- in until May generally. 



Q. Are there not some that go to the Grand Banks in February ? A. 

 Some go ; those that we don't send to the George's at all. They go as 

 early as the first of March. 



Q. They go direct ? A. Some do. 



Q. What bait do those vessels take ? A. We generally put on board 

 some salt bait to start with. 



Q. W T hat bait do you take from Gloucester ? A. They take slivers 

 pogy sliver and clams. 



Q. Both salted 1 A. Yes. 



Q. They take no other bait ! A. No. 



Q. You are clear they take no other bait except salt slivers and clams, 

 the vessels that go to the Grand Bank from Gloucester ? A. I don't 

 know ; they might some of them. I have a recollection of one or two 

 cases where fresh bait was taken. They had ice. That was only once 

 or twice, I think. 



Q. Only once or twice you remember fresh bait being put on board ? 

 A. Yes ; never more than twice, to my recollection. 



Q. Now, you are clear upon that, that vessels that fish from Glouces- 

 ter and go to the Grand Banks take nothing but salt clams and pogy 

 slivers'? A. I don't know what some of them might have done. I 

 could not tell. Some of them might have taken fresh pogies, the same 

 as I have done. 



Q. But you are thoroughly conversant, are you not, with the descrip- 

 tion of bait the Grand Bank fishers take? A. Certainly. 



Q. You have a thorough knowledge of how they are fitted out ? A. 

 I have been right in the business. 



WEDNESDAY, September 26. 



The Conference met. 



Cross-examination of BENJAMIN MADDOCKS, by Mr. Whiteway, con- 

 tinued. 



Question. Could you inform me of the number of vessels fitted out for 

 the Grand Bank fishery from Gloucester ? Answer. I have not any means 

 of knowing the exact number. 



