2176 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Have you discharged any for not carrying out these instructions? 

 A. I have discharged men frequently. 



Q. Have you for not carrying out these instructions? A. I always 

 have other reasons ; different reasons. I do not generally discharge a 

 man for one fault. 



Q. You would not discharge a man for one fault, be it ever so gross ? 

 A. Unless it was a very bad fault I would not. 



Q. Then you don't consider it a very bad fault to go into Newfound- 

 land for bait, do you ? A. I should not consider it a fault at all if the 

 captain used his best judgment. 



Q. Well, what would you consider his best judgment to be ? Give us 

 an illustration of what you consider an exercise of good judgment. A. 

 That would be according to the ability of the man. 



Q. Yes. Give an instance, now, of a banker fishing on the Grand 

 Bank, and going into the Newfoundland coast for bait. Under what 

 circumstances would he exercise a wholesome and sound judgment ? 

 A. I don't know that I exactly understand your question, sir. 



Q. Well, yon say that if a man going in there for bait exercised a 

 sound judgment, you would approve of it. A. I should approve of 

 his using his best judgment. 



Q. Very good. Then, if a captain of a vessel on the Banks went in, 

 and he was a man of good judgment, you would say that you approved 

 of his conduct ? A. O, certainly, if he attended rightly to his business 

 and got his bait, and got out on the ground as soon as he could con- 

 veniently. I should think a man might do that and use his best judg- 

 ment too. 



Q. Now, in your instructions to your captains, you say you instruct 

 them not to go there for bait. Is that the case, or is it the case that 

 you told those captains to exercise their best judgment as to whether 

 they should go there or not ? A. O, my instructions would be accord- 

 ing to who he was and what abilities he had. Of course, I have men in 

 my employ that I would not give any instructions to whatever. 1 would 

 let them use their judgment. 



Q. And would be perfectly satisfied if they exercised their judgment 

 in favor of going in to Newfoundland for bait ? You would be perfectly 

 satisfied that they had done what was for the best ? A. O, I don't ex- 

 press any dissatisfaction generally, unless I have occasion to. 



Q. Have you ever expressed any dissatisfaction to any one of your 

 captains because he went in for bait 1 ? A. O, I have expressed a good 

 deal of dissatisfaction on account of their waste of time. 

 M Q. Answer the question I put. Have you ever expressed any dissat- 

 isfaction because they went in for bait ? A. Not if they have attended 

 to their business and got their bait as soon as they could and gone out 

 on the ground again, I did not. 



Q. Well, now, Mr. Maddocks, I would desire very much that you 

 should answer the question straightforwardly. Have you ever expressed 

 dissatisfaction to a captain of either of your vessels because he went in 

 to Newfoundland for bait? Have you been dissatisfied upon that ground 

 alone with bis conduct, because he went in for bait? I ain not speak- 

 ing of losing time, or anything of that sort, but simply because he went 

 in there for bait ? A. Well, I would not be likely to, it he went in and 

 got bait, and didn't waste time, of course. 



Q. If everything went straight, you would not be dissatisfied, of 

 course ; but can you pledge your oath that you have ever expressed to 

 either of your captains dissatisfaction with his conduct, because he went 

 into Newfoundland for bait? A. I don't generally express dissatisfac- 



