2198 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



make all your catches of mackerel about Margaree inside the limit T 

 A. All but that trip. 



Q. You have never fished in Bay Chaleurs ? A. No. 



Q. Do you understand that a large number of the American fleet did 

 fish there ? A. No. 



Q. You never heard that ? A. No. 



Q. You have never heard that a large number of the American fleet 

 have fished in Bay Chaleurs ? A. No. 



Q. At any time f A. No. 



Q. Have you ever conversed with American captains about Bay Cha- 

 leurs fishing ! A. Yes. 



Q. Have they ever told you that they fished there ? A. No. Once 

 in a while there would be a vessel go up in the bay, and get nothing, 

 and come out. That is the most I know about Bay Chaleurs. 



Q. If a number of witnesses come here and say they fished in Ameri- 

 can vessels in that bay, and that a large fleet fished there at the same 

 time, what would you say I A. What do you call up Bay Chaleurs ; 

 from Point Miscou to Port Daniels ? I don't know that ever a great 

 many fished up inside of that. 



Q. As you have not fished there yourself, you are not prepared to say 

 that vessels were not there ? A. I will not swear that a vessel was not 

 there, but a large fleet was not there. 



Q. Were 30 vessels there at one time fishing f A. There might be, 

 but most of the vessels fished around Magdalen Islands the biggest 

 fleet. 



Q. I am asking you about Bay Chaleurs ? A. I don't know anything 

 about Bay Chaleurs. 



Q. Then you will not undertake to say that vessels did not fish 

 there ? A. I never heard about mackerel being caught there. When- 

 ever they get mackerel you most always hear where they get them. 



Q. About the Magdalen Islands, you have spoken of Bryon Island 

 and Bird Rocks ; how far from those did you catch your fish ! A. At 

 Bird Eocks we would fish to a spring. 



Q. At Bryon Island ? A. Three or four, four or five, or about 12 

 miles off between the two. You cannot get any mackerel close up to 

 the island. 



Q. You caught some in Cape North Bay ? A. Yes. 



Q. How far from the shore ; close in ? A. We were, inside two miles, 

 along there. 



Q. Am I correct in saying that fish taken in the fall of the year 

 about Cape Breton Island are very good fish ? A. They are, some years. 



Q. The fish taken in June and July are a poorer class, are they not f 

 A. Yes. 



Q. And in the fall the catches are made about Cape Breton more than 

 in spring and summer ? A. I never heard when I went to the bay of 

 anybody catching any round those places in summer, but last year I 

 heard they did. 



Q. The fish are generally taken there toward the fall of the year f- 

 A. Yes. 



Q. I will call your attention to Bay Chaleurs again. I will read 

 from the testimony of Hon. Robert Young, president of the Executive 

 Council of New Brunswick, who lives at Caraquette, New Brunswick. 

 You know that Caraquette is in New Brunswick ? A. Yes. 



Q. On page 395 Mr. Young was asked the question in regard to th( 

 number of American vessels : 



Q. How many on an average have you seen in the bay since 1871 ? A. I should saj 

 about 100; the number may be more. 



