2206 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



to the safety of fishing about the Magdalen Islands ? A. Well, I call 

 that the safest place there is in the bay for fishing purposes. I was 

 once caught in the bend of the island and I did not fancy it. The ves- 

 sel went ashore, but nevertheless we got out of our difficulty safe. 



Q. Do you know the number of mackerel-fishing vessels which are 

 now in the gulf from Gloucester ? A. I do not. 



Q. Do you know, speaking generally, whether the number of these 

 vessels from Gloucester is now larger, or as large as or smaller, than it used 

 to be ? A. O, it is smaller. 



Q. With your experience, which would you rather have, 82 per barrel 

 duty levied on fish which competes with yours or the privilege of com- 

 ing within the three-mile limit in British waters ? A. Well, I should 

 rather have the $2 duty. 



By Mr. Davies : 



Q. I see you have a memorandum ; did you make it up in order to 

 give in your evidence ? A. I made it up for the years during which I 

 was fishing. 



Q. In 1850 you were in the Gazelle ? A. Yes ; but I was not master. 



Q. In what vessel were you in 1851 ? A. In the Leading Star ; but I 

 was not master. 



Q. What did you catch ? A. On both trips we got between 300 and 

 400 barrels. 



Q. In 1854 you were in the Ohio ? A. Yes. 



Q. And in 1856 you were in the Leading Star ? A. No ; I was in the 

 John. 



Q. Where were you in 1857 ? A. I was in the Ellen Francis. 



Q. And in 1858? A. I was then in the Leading Star. 



Q. What did you take that year ? A. 230 barrels. 



Q. And in 1857 ? A. I was in the bay two trips that year ; we got 

 230 barrels on the first and 175 barrels on the second. 



Q. In what vessel were you in in 1859 ? A. The Leading Star. - 



Q. What was your catch ? A. 260 barrels. 



Q. And in I860! A. I was then in the Anglo Saxon. 



Q. What was your catch ? A. 300 barrels. 



Q. And 1861 ? A. I was then in the Anglo Saxon. Our catch was 300 

 barrels. In 1862 I was in the Ellen Francis ; our catch was 200 barrels. 

 In 1863 I was in the Weather Gauge ; catch, about 500 barrels. In 

 1864, in the Galena ; catch, 900 barrels. In 1865 I was in the Elver 

 Dale. 



Q. Are you sure whether it was in 1864 or '5 that you were in the 

 Galena ? A. It was in 1864, I am positive. I will take my oath to it. 



Q. How many did you catch in 1865 ! A. 650 barrels. 



Q. In what vessel were you in 1866 ! A. The John Bright. 



Q. What was your catch ? A. 750 barrels. 



Q. In what vessel were you in 1867 ? A. The Alaska. 



Q. What was your catch ? A. About 500 barrels. We made two 

 trips. 



Q. In what vessel were you in 1868 ? A. The Eush Light ; our catch 

 was 300 barrels. I was also in her in 1869, when our catch was about 

 300 barrels. In 1870 I was in the same vessel ; and our catch was 

 about 270 barrels. In 1871 1 was in the same vessel ; our catch was a 

 little short of 200 barrels. In 1872 I was in the same vessel, and our 

 catch was about 250 barrels. 



Q. In what vessel were you in 1873? A. I cannot think of the name. 

 I was not skipper at the time. 



