2210 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Especially wheo the cutters were there ? A. Well, I never did so ; 

 they used to run up and down, three miles off shore, and we used to fish 

 outside of that. 



Q. During the whole term of the Reciprocity Treaty, or nearly so at 

 all events, you were fishing in the Bay of St. Lawrence ? A. Yes. 



Q. And then you had a right to fish within three miles of the shore ? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. Do I understand you to say that during this period you never 

 fished within three miles of the island coast ? A. Yes. 



Q. I understand you to say that ever since you have fished in the 

 bay, you never fished within three miles of Prince Edward Island, with 

 one exception ? A. Yes. 



Q. Is there any doubt in your mind as to where the three-mile line 

 runs! A. It is hard to tell where it runs unless you measure the dis- 

 tance. When you do so with your eyes, you have to go by your judg- 

 ment. 



Q. In point of fact, Captain Riggs might have been within the three- 

 mile limit, but did not think that this was the case ! A. I do not think 

 that he was. 



Q. Might you have been ? A. I might have been if I measured it; I 

 suppose you could not tell anything about it. 



Q. You might have been ; but you did not measure it ; and I suppose 

 that you would not be very particular about it if you were catching 

 fish ? A. As long as we were catching fish I did not trouble myself about 

 it, since I knew that we were six miles off shore. The steamer used to 

 run up about three miles off shore, and we always used to fish outside of 

 her. 



Q. But there was no steamer so running during the Reciprocity 

 Treaty? A. No; but we never fished round there during that time. 



Q. When you had a right to go inshore and fish you did not go ? A. 

 No. 



Q. You have fished about the Cape Breton shore ? A. Yes. 



Q. This would be towards the fall of the year ? A. Yes ; I got the 

 biggest part of a trip there. 



Q. When do the mackerel strike the Cape Breton shore ? A. In Oc- 

 tober. 



Q. Do the fleet fish much there'iu October ? A. They used to do so ; 

 but of late years they have not caught any fish there at all. 



Q. Have you tried of late years there ! A. No. 



Q. Have you been there of late years! A. No ; not since 1867. 



Q. Then you cannot tell whether fish are caught there or not ! A. 

 Well, I have never heard of anybody catching them thus. 



Q. But before that you did ? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you catch your whole fare there ? A. Not quite. 



Q. How many barrels did you take there ? A. About 209. 



Q. When was this! A. In 1867. 



Q. Was that the only time that you ever caught fish there ! A. Yes. 



Q. Perhaps it was the only time you ever tried there ? A. No. 



Q. Did you try there every year ! A. No ; I may have been there a 

 dozen times from first to last. I cannot speak more particularly on this 

 point. 



Q. Do you believe tha't you have tried there a dozen times? A. I 

 have done so for mackerel, but I never got any there save once. 



Q. And that was when you caught about 200 barrels there ? A. Yes. 



Q. You never caught any at all there on the other occasions ? A. 

 No ; I don't recollect of having done so. 



