2212 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Excuse me ; it was not where you commonly fished, but where you 

 invariably fished. A. Yes ; about every year that I have fished in the 

 bay, I have fished round the Magdalen Islands and on Bank Bradley. 



Q. In all your experience, you only fished twice within three miles of 

 the shore in the bay; and notwithstanding that fact you took out 

 licenses, though you had invariably fished in the deep sea where you 

 ran no risk those two times xcepted. Does not that strike you as 

 being a little curious? A. No; I do not think that there is anything 

 curious about it. 



Q. What was the size of the vessels in which you fished during the 

 two years when you took out licenses? A. Oue was 132 tons, aud the 

 other, I think, 51 tons. 



Q. Suppose that you were cruising along the coast of Cape Breton 

 when you had no license, and saw tiue fishing within the limits, would 

 you have kept out or would you have gone in and taken fish ? A. I 

 cannot tell anything about that. 



Q. What is your opinion about it J ? A.. I do not think I should have 

 gone in if the cutters were round, or any such thing as that. 



Q. But if the cutters were not round ? A. I should not have gone 

 in ; I should not have known anything about it. 



Q. You would not then have measured the distance you were from the 

 shore to see whether the school was within three miles of the shore or 

 not? A. Yes. 



Q. How would you have measured it ? A. With my eye. 



Q. What do you think would have been the result; would it have 

 been that you were 3^ miles from the shore ? A. The cutters took ves- 

 sels 7 or 8 miles off. 



Q. Don't you think that that amusing eye of yours would have made 

 the distance 3| or 3 miles ? A. No ; 1 do not think it would. 



Q. During the years when you came down to the bay, how many 

 Gloucester vessels came to the Gulf of St. Lawrence? Take the time 

 when the Keciprocity Treaty was in force. A. There were 250 or 300 ; 

 about 250, I guess, or 275, or along there; that would be as many as 

 were there. 



Q. You say you would prefer a duty being imposed on our mackerel 

 to the right to fish inshore in British waters ? A. I should. 



Q. Why do you want a duty on ? A. It is no benefit to us to fish in- 

 shore that I ever saw. 



Q. Why do you want it on ? A. Well, we would have a better mar- 

 ket for our fish. 



Q. Would you get a higher price for them ? A. We should ; yes. 



Q. And therefore you are speaking as a fisherman; as such you 

 would like to get the highest price you could for your fish ? A. Cer- 

 tainly. 



Q. You think that the imposition of a duty would give you a better 

 market?- -A. Yes; if Canadians had to pay the duty, it is likely they 

 would not fetch the fish in. 



Q. What would be the result of that? A. We would have a higher 

 price aud a quicker market. 



Q. You would have a higher price? A. I do not know that this 

 would be the case, or any thing about it; but it would be a quicker mar- 

 ket for us. 



Q. I see that you fished chiefly in the bay ; you did not often go on 

 the American coast to fish ? A. I fished there some years. 



Q. But very few apparently ? A. For several years I did so, I guess. 

 One year I was in the bay, and went out with 100 barrels ; and then 

 fished on our coast, where I got 500 barrels. 



