AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2221 



Q. You find these pogies on the American coast! A. Yea; about the 

 10th to the 12th of May. It /continues to the fall of the year. We get 

 them as late as November in Provincetown ; sometimes as late as the 

 25th. 



By Mr. Davies : 



Q. The mode of supplying themselves with bait has changed, I under- 

 stood you to say, of late years ? A. Yes, it has, of course. 



Q. How is it now on the Banks? A. I don't fish on the Banks. 



Q. How is it with those that do! A. Some, I suppose, go into New- 

 foundland. I was down year before last. One man belonging to Bev- 

 erly hadn't been in there at all. He made a remark to me that this 

 going in for bait was a kind of a bother. One man that spoke to me 

 about it he was a little temperate, I believe he said if we could get 

 along without coming in for bait we would do better. 



Q. You know one man that didn't go in ? A. Yes. 



Q. He was looked upon as a rather singular man? A. Yes, .in one 

 respect. He got 2,200 quintals of codfish. 



Q. I didn't ask you what he got. A. I didn't know I was limited in 

 my answer. 



Q. You volunteered some conversation you -had had with a particular 

 person, and I asked if he was looked upon as a singular man in not 

 coming in ? A. Not to my knowledge. 



Q. Why was he selected from all the rest and spoken of as not having 

 come in"? A. The reason was that he did so much better than other 

 vessels by staying out. 



Q. Do you wish to give the opinion that those that use salt bait alone 

 do better? A. That is my own opinion. I don't know anything about 

 it. I have never been to the Banks. 



Q. What has the general practice been for the last few years ? A. As 

 a general thing, they go in for fresh bait. 



Q. When you speak of bait taken on the Grand Manan, is it not the 

 Bank fishers that take that bait in the spring ? A. Yes; the Cape Ann 

 vessels go down one trip. Some' do and some do not. 



Q. Do most? A. They do not. When bait is very scarce anywhere 

 else, and there is no other resource, they go there. They don't like to 

 go. It is a long distance. 



Q. Still they go? A. Yes. 



Q. And they get bait ? A. I think they do. . 



Q. Is there good fishing at Grand Mauau ? A. I don't know. It is 

 not very good and not very bad. 



Q. It is medium, is it? A. Our vessels don't fish there. 



Q. They go there to get this bait? A. Yes; and go 'to the Georges. 



Q. Do most of them go? A. Very few. Some that can't get it any- 

 where else take the trouble to go down there. 



Q. And when they can't get it there, do they go to the coast of Nova 

 Scotia to get it! A. I don't know. 



Q. You never practiced cod-fish-ing much? A. No; I never did, ex- 

 cept when I first went skipper. 



Q. You have never fished with fresh and salt bait ? A. Yes ; the first 

 year on the Georges I fished with salt bait. 



Q. That is not what I asked you. 'Did you fish with fresh and salt 

 bait both on the same trip ? A. Yes. 



Q. Are you able to state whether the salt was as good as the fresh for 

 catching ? A. The first season I went we used part fresh and part salt. 

 As long as we didn't use anything else but salt bait we would get fish ; 



