2224 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



A. "Well, would you say a man who has followed the sea for thirty-five 

 years was rich at $4,000 ? 



Q. No. A. Well that is what I am worth. The last year satisfied 

 me I was losing what little I had, and I gave it up. 



Q. I dare say you will understand presently why you were losing. 

 In 1874 you knew you had a right to fish anywhere I A. Yes; I did. 



Q. Did you exercise that right ? A. I did. 



Q. You fished inshore and out of shore ? A. Yes. 



Q. I understood you to answer Mr. Dana that in 1874 you caught your 

 fish around Margaree and in the bend of the island ? A. I did not say 

 any such thing. I told him I got 150 that year inshore. 



Q. I didn't ask you with reference to inshore at all I understood you 

 to say you fished altogether around Prince Edward Island and Mar-, 

 garee in 1874 ? A. Yes ; I believe it was 1874. 



Q. I was right ? A. Yes. 



Q. In that year you caught all your fish around Prince Edward Island 

 and Margaree? A. Yes ; sometimes in sight of Margaree. 



Q. You had a right to go where you liked. Now, did you or did you 

 not pay any attention to the quantities you took inshore or outside in 

 that particular year ? A. I did not. 



Q. And have you had any reason to divide the quantity you caught 

 inside from that caught outside ; there has been nothing to induce you 

 to recollect what you caught inside as against those taken outside? A. 

 I didn't keep any account. All I noticed 



Q. You cannot keep them separate ? A. All I noticed was that those 

 we caught inshore were a good deal poorer than those we took outside. 

 Whenever we caught close in we got a poor quality. 



Q. Would you like to swear that you didn't get three-fourths within 

 three miles ? A. I would swear to it. 



Q. Although you had no reason to watch ? A. Of course. Is it not 

 natural we should take notice where we were? For instance I can tell 

 you we caught such and such a trip at such and such a place. We 

 would notice where we got good catches, and would probably go there 

 again. 



Q. Give me the proportion you caught within three miles ? A. I think 

 we got 150 barrels within the three-mile limit. 



Q. Don't you think more? A. I think not. 



Q. How many did you get about Margaree? A. Very few. Nearly 

 all around Prince Edward Island. What we call Fisherman's Bank to 

 Second Chapel. Once we were in Malpeque Harbor. That was not 

 very stormy that year. We had the wind easterly around the point. 



Q. Although you were there that year you returned all right. You 

 were not drowned. A. That does not signify. 



Q. As a matter of fact your vessel did actually escape that year ? 

 A. Yes. That does not signify it is not dangerous. 



Q. Not at all. Do you know any vessel that got ashore that year on 

 that dangerous coast ? A. Don't they often go ashore in safe and pleas- 

 ant weather ? Anybody can get off then. 



Q. Do you know any vessel that got ashore that year in Priuce Ed- 

 ward Island ? A. Not to my recollection. There might have been a 

 dozen. 



Q. Why do you say there might have been ? A. A vessel would 

 likely go ashore there in calm, in misty or foggy weather, she might go 

 ashore any time. 



Q. You think it is very likely ? A. Yes. 



Q. Would you not have seen a report of it if any of your vessels had 



