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gone ashore? A. There was other vessels in the bay beside American 

 vessels. 



Q. Did you hear of any fishing-vessels going ashore that year on the 

 island? A. I might have heard it ; I don't recollect. 



Q. You were not fishing there any other year on the island coast ex- 

 cept 1874? A. The year before we fished around there, but off shore. 



Q. Did you fish around the island in 1873 ? A. We did some, part of 

 the year. 



Q. Did you catch any inshore ? A. No. 



Q. In 1872 you lost your cables and anchors at the Magdalens, that 

 calm and beautiful place where it does not blow at all? A. Well, it 

 may not be so moderate. 



Q. Is it as moderate as Prince Edward Island? A. In the latter 

 part. 



Q. Take it all through ? A. There is very little difference. 



Q. You don't think it is more boisterous ? A. I don't think. There 

 are plenty of times you can fish at the Magdaleus when you can't at 

 Prince Edward Island. 



Q. Did you say you were around the Prince Edward Island shore any 

 other year than 1873 ? A. Not to my knowledge. I might probably go 

 there once in a while. 



Q. During all the years you were in the bay, from 1851 downward, 

 do you know of any American vessels going ashore, leaving out the gale 

 of 1851 ? A. There was another gale in 1861. That is the Yankee gale. 



Q. No, that is the gale of 1851. Did you or did you not know of any 

 American vessels being lost on the Prince Edward Island coast from 

 1852 to 1874 ? A. That includes the last gale. 



Q. Not the gale of 1851? A. It includes 1861. You say from 1852 

 to when ? 



Q. To tihe time you went out of the gulf. A. That includes that 

 would be to -1874. Yes, I do. 



Q. American vessels ? Give the names. A. I could not exactly say 

 the names. One vessel went ashore right close to the point. The other 

 one was the Atwood, I think, owned by Ayers & Co. She went ashore. 

 One of them was got off by parties in Souris. And the other was sold 

 to parties there. 



Q. Those are the two ? A. Yes. 



Q. And these are all you know of? A. I don't know of any others. 

 There might be a dozen ; I don't know. 



Q. I asked you simply what you knew. You know for the last 25 

 years of two vessels, one of which was got off both of which were got 

 off, and one of them sold. Do you know of any going ashore in 1861 ? 

 A. Yes, a number. The Golden Eule. 



Q. I speak of being lost I A. I could not say whether she was lost or 

 not. 



Q. I don't mean to speak of vessels touching the shore, but driving 

 ashore and being lost A. Well, I don't know what you mean by touch- 

 ing the shore. I guess if you were the owner you would not speak of 

 them as touching the shore. 



Q. Were you there fishing ? A. I was in the bend of the Island. 



Q. Fishing? You told me before you never fished in Prince Edward 

 Island. A. I never told you so. I said when I was skipper. 



Q. I asked you most distinctly whether you had ever fished around 

 the Prince Edward Island shore except in 1874 and 1873, and you told 

 me you didn't. You denied it. A. I didn't deny it. You were question- 

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