2228 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



that will be the end of it. A. I should say there were 175 some years in 

 the bay. 



Q. Did you ever take means to ascertain whether that is correct or 

 not! A. No ; I judge from what I have seen. 



Q. How many have you seen in one spot together ? A. At Port Hood 

 I have seen as many as 200 sail. 



Q. Mostly Americans ? A. All descriptions. 



Q. Were they or were they not mostly Americans ? A. Probably a 

 hundred and fifty sail were Americans. 



Q. What were they doing at Port Hood ? I thought you always fished 

 about the Magdalens and Bradley Bank ? A. We don't always. When 

 there is a gale of wind probably 



Q. What f Would you leave this fine, safe place and run down in a 

 gale of wind! Would you leave this harbor of refuge and come dowii 

 to Cape Breton to get a harbor ? A. No, I did not. They did not run 

 across exactly to make harbor. They gather from different points. 

 Probably they would find the fish scarce, and go in to get fittings and 

 make a harbor. 



Q. Could they get fittings there? A. They could get anything they 

 want there, water, wood, or any little thing. 



Q. What do you mean by fittings ? A. Wood and water. 



Q. Do you class them as fittings ? Did you mean that when you made 

 use of the word "fittings"? A. Yes; that is part of the fittings. 



Q. Didn't you mean rigging, sails, and things of that kind ? A. No. 



Q. Where would they be fishing when they would run into Port 

 Hood ? A. Off Margaree, probably. 



Q. Were you among them when they were fishing off Margaree? A. 

 Sometimes. In the latter part of the season we would be fishing be- 

 tween Margaree and Cheticamp, and, if it was stormy, work into Port 

 Hood. 



Q. In the latter part of the season you would probably be fishing be- 

 tween Margaree and Cheticamp and then work up into Port Hood ? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. And you say that would probably be the case ? A. Probably it 

 would. 



Q. And then not one of them ever was fishing within three miles ? 

 A. It is not very often they fished in so near as three miles. The fish 

 would not attend. 



Q. How often have you been fishing between Margaree and Cheti- 

 camp ? A. Never but very little. I fished there once in the Henry. 



Q. W^hen were you again between Margaree and Cheticamp? A. 

 That is all, to my knowledge, I ever fished. 



Q. If you have never been there but once how can you hazard the 

 statement that the fish would not be there ? How do you know if you 

 did not go there to fish ? A. I am judging from what I heard from par- 

 ties. The general report was that they never caught any fish. They 

 fished right off what we call the northeast part of the island. 



Q. You knew Captain Laj ton ? A. Yes. 



Q. He said that with the exception of one time he caught all the fish 

 he took at Margaree within three miles ? A. Probably he might. 



Q. How so, if they are not there ? A. They might be there. As a 

 general thing they are not within three miles. 



Q. How do you know if you were not there ? A. Other vessels go in 

 and say, probably, they are not there. 



Q. Tell me a man who told you that fish were not taken within three 



