AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2231 



Q. Take I860, 280 and 220. That is just 500. A. That is for the 

 season. That is pretty good. 



Q. In 1868 you went in late f A. I made only one trip. 



Q. In 1872 you made one trip ? A. Yes. 



Q. In 1873 you took 480 in two trips. Is that a very small catch ? 

 A. That was a good fair catch in proportion to the rest. 



Q. In 1874, so far as numbers were concerned, you had 498 barrels. 

 Is that very small I A. It was called a very good catch for the season. 



Q. Now, I have been over every trip from 1800 to 1874. There is no 

 one you call a very small catch ? A. Not for the season. I always got 

 a very fair catch for the fleet. 



Q. Now, Mr. Davies having based a question upon that, do you say 

 that the catches have been very small in the bay ? A. I do not. Always, 

 as a general thing, I got good fair catches of fish. 



Q. One point more. You say you went to Miscou Bank. Is that in 

 Bay Chaleurs ? A. It is not in Bay Chaleurs at all. 



Q. Where is it? A. It lies right off Miscou Point, one of the points 

 of Bay Chaleurs. 



Q. Then you don't see any inconsistency in saying that when in Mis- 

 eou Bank you were not in Bay Chaleurs ? You were not up Bay Chal- 

 eurs? A. I don't recollect it. 



Q. Did you say you knew of no fish caught inside of three miles off 

 Margaree ? A. I did not. 



Q. Did you say anything like that 1 A. No, I said very likely there 

 was mackerel caught within three miles. They might be right on the 

 rocks for all I know, but I never caught any. 



Q. One more question. Were you conscious of intentionally evad- 

 ing questions put by Mr. Davies 1 A. I came here to tell the truth. 



Q. Were you conscious of intentionally evading questions put by him ? 

 'A. Not at all. I came here to tell as near the truth as I can tell. 



Q. Did you always understand his questions in the form put ! A. No, 

 he talked to me so sharp. It is the first time I was before a court, and 

 it is difficult for a person, especially where a man is trying to bore right 

 into you. 



Q. You were supposing the questions to be put for the purpose ! A. 

 They were put to bother me and disconcert me. 



Q. I only asked if you understood his questions f A. I did not. I 

 know what a cross-questioning means. 



Q. Look at the paper and tell what is the correct catch as regards 

 1865 ? A. About 500 barrels. 



Q. That is not what is there. A. In 1865 280 barrels. If I had been 

 asked the years in the bay in succession, I could have gi%;en every one 

 promptly, but when you take certain years and cross-examine a person, 

 it is different. 



By Hon. Mr. Kellogg: 



Q. You spoke of a line from North Cape to East Cape and the distance 

 from the Magdalen Islands down to the deepest bend of Prince Edward 

 Island. What is it ? A. I think about 22 miles. 



No. 24. 



JOHN H. GALE, of Gloucester, Mass., packer and deputy inspector of 

 mackerel for the city of Gloucester, called on behalf of the Government 

 of the United States, sworn and examined. 

 By Mr. Foster : 



Question. How old are you I Answer. Forty-three years. 



