AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2243 



Q. lu 1867, were you in the same vessel ? A. Yes ; the first trip. 



Q. What did the General Grant catch the first trip f A. About 200 

 barrels. 



Q. Where were they taken ? A. On the same grounds at Magdalen 

 Islands, off North Cape, and at Bank Bradley ; that is, the bulk of them. 



Q. Was any portion taken inshore ? A. I don't think so. There 

 might possible have been a few, but not to amount to anything. We 

 did not fish inshore at all in that vessel. 



Q. Not during any of the years ? A. No ; we never fished inshore. 



Q. You say you took cross-bearings ? A. Yes ; for my own satisfac- 

 tion. 



Q. Did you doit for the captain ? A. No ; for my own satisfaction. 



Q. What reason had you for doing so ? A. So that if at any time we 

 should be fishing inshore, I would know we were within the three miles. 



Q. Did you then understand navigation ? A. I was learning it. 



Q. By yourself? A. By myself. 



Q. You say you were ou the General Grant one trip in 18C7 f A. 

 Yes. 



Q. Were you on any other schooner the latter part of that year? A. 

 On the Ruth Groves, of Gloucester, Captain David Gathney. 



Q. How many barrels did she get ? A. About 120 barrels, I think. 



Q. Where were they taken f A. Hound Prince Edward Island. We 

 got so few, and they were so scattered, we could hardly tell where we 

 got them. 



Q. Did you get any portion inshore ? A. We might have ; I could 

 not say. 



Q. In stating the number of years you were in the gulf, you said you 

 were not there in 1868. What were you doing then ? A. Halibut fish- 

 ing. 



Q. Where ? A. At Grand Banks, St. Peter's Bank, and the Western 

 Banks. 



Q. In 1869, were you in the gulf ? A. Yes; one trip in the fall. 



Q. In what schooner ? A. Samuel E. Sawyer, Captain M. C. Web- 

 ber. 



Q. How many barrels did she take ? A. About 120 sea barrels. 



Q. Where were they taken ? A. Eound the bend of Prince Edward 

 Island, principally. 



Q. In shore or out ? A. I could not say positively. 



Q. In 1866, 1867, and 1869, you were fishing in the Gulf of St. Law. 

 rence at different places. Two of those years, the whole of 1866 and the 

 first part of 1867, your vessel was licensed. Do you recollect whether 

 the Kuth Groves was licensed ? A. I don't recollect. 



Q. Were any cutters there in 1869 ? A. I never saw a Canadian cut- 

 ter under sail in my life ; not to know her. 



Q. In what harbors in Prince Edward Island have you been T A. 

 Cascuunpeque, Malpeque, Souris, and Georgetown. 



Q. Have you been in those harbors often f A. No; very seldom. 

 We did not frequent the harbors. 



Q. Is the bend of the island regarded by American fishermen a 

 safe or a dangerous place ? A. It is considered a very dangerous place 

 in the fall. 



Q. Did you ever fish in Bay Chaleurs f A. Yes, we fished there, but 

 we never caught any mackerel there. We tried to fish. 



Q. What year did you ever try to fish there ? A. We were there in 

 1865 and 1869. We might have been there other years, 

 member. 



