AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2247 



Q. It might be three fourths t A. I say I cannot tell yon ho\v many. 



Q. Does yoar memory enable you to say that the portion taken 

 inshore was not three fourths ? A. It was not the whole. That is as 

 near as I can come to it. I can give you no just idea. 



Q. In 1865, in General Grant, you seem to have fished in different 

 places from other years ? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you ever, during that year, try any inshore fishing ? A. Yes; 

 we did. 



Q. Where ! A. We tried up in Bay Chaleurs. 



Q. Did you try near the shore ! A. Yes ; we tried right in the 

 mouth of Port Daniel Harbor. 



Q. In Port Daniel Harbor, near the mouth of Bay Chaleurs ! A. 

 Yes ; it is right across to the north of Cape Gaspe". 



Q. That is hardly in Bay Chaleurs ? A. It is in the mouth of it. It 

 is termed Bay Chaleurs. 



Q. Did you ever go up the bay ? A. As far as Paspebiac. 



Q. Did you fish within the limits ? A. I don't recollect. It is likely 

 we did. I was very seldom there ; I did not take any notice. 



Q. You had the right to fish there ? A. I don't recollect. 



Q. If you don't recollect whether you fished inshore, how can you 

 recollect whether you took any fish or not ? A. I know we did not take 

 any fish in Bay Chaleurs ; I never helped to catch ten barrels there. 



Q. Did you fish in Bay Chaleurs more than once ? A. Yes ; we tried 

 sometimes, in the Samuel E. Sawyer, in 1869. 



Q. Did you go within three miles of the shore ? A. I think we did ; 

 round Point Miscou we did. 



Q. Did your fishermen generally try within three miles of the shore T 

 A. I cannot say. 



Q. Did you see any others trying to fish there ? A. Yes; off Miscon, 

 eight or ten vessels. 



Q. All trying at the same place? A. Yes; but they tried as much 

 and more off shore, and in the middle of the bay. 



Q. You caught 1,200 barrels in the General Grant? A. About 1,200 

 sea- barrels. 



Q. They would pack 1,100? A. I don't recollect. I remember how 

 many I packed. 



Q. Did you not try round Cape Breton that year ? A. Yes ; we tried 

 on our way running up. We tried right along. We hove to off Port 

 Hood and Margaree. 



Q. Were American vessels fishing there ? A. Yes. 



Q. When you took your fish you were off Tignish ? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you never run in there close to the shore ? A. We never tried 

 inside of three miles ; we never took any fish inside of three miles. I 

 am sure of that. 



Q. You were right off ? A. I will tell you why I recollect it. There 

 was not any agitation about the matter then ; but we several times it 

 was calm weather put out our boat, and she has rowed out of our 

 sight. 



Q. That is the mode you took of going ? A. Yes ; that is how I 

 recollect. They caught some in the boat, although the vessel could have 

 gone inshore. 



Q. Did you go inshore to catch some ? A. Yes, I was in the boat. 

 The catch did not amount to anything. 



Q. How close did you go in with the boat to get mackerel ? 

 go where the other boats were fishing! A. No other boats were there. 



