2258 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. But you could not see Port Hood? A. No; we could see as far as 

 Cheticamp. 



Q. That was the only year you tried there ? A. Yes. 



Q. Were there many boats that tried ? A. About thirty for codfish. 



Q. Any boats for mackerel ? A. No. They tried once in a while, and 

 it was not a success. 



Q. In 1852 and 1853 did you try in Prince Edward Island ? A. Yes. 



Q. Where ? A. At Malpe'que abroad off Malpeque. 



Q. Not within ten miles ? A. No. 



Q. You didn't go inshore at all ? A. No. 



Q. Did you go along the island shore within 3 miles trying to fish ? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. Was that the year reciprocity came into force ? A. I don't know 

 when it came into force. 



Q. Did you in 1852 try to go along inshore ? A. Yes. 



Q. Were you not afraid of cutters ? A. No. 



Q. Did you know you had no right? A. I don't know whether I had 

 the right or not. 



Q. You tried ? A. Yes.' If we didn't try we ran by vessels that were 

 trying. 



Q. Did you try Bay Chaleur ? A. I never was in Bay Chaleur. 



Q. You never were along the west coast of New Brunswick. You 

 caught them in 1852 at Malpeque, on the Magdalens, and Bradley. Did 

 jou in 1852 try Margaree and Cheticamp ? A. Yes; all those years. 



Q. And that particular year ? A. Yes. 



Q. With what result? A. Nothing. 



Q. Were there no mackerel there in 1852 ? Do you pretend to say 

 there were none? A. I pretend to say I heard of none beiug caught 

 there, and we caught none. 



Q. How often did you try ? A. Well, I suppose we ran round two or 

 three times in the year. 



Q. Are you prepared to state whether other vessels took large catches 

 or not in 1852 ? A. I don't know. They might. If we had heard we 

 would probably go there. 



Q. In 1853 was the result the same? A. I don't know whether the 

 others caught any or not. 



Q. In 1853 you were in the bay and caught 275 barrels ; you don't 

 know whether the other vessels caught around the coast or not, but you 

 didn't? A. We fished with the fleet. 



Q. Now I ask you whether in 1852 and 1853 the fleet caught any fish 

 around Margaree? A. We never caught any there. I could not say 

 for the fleet. 



Q. If they fished with you you would know ? A. They fished with us. 



Q. You would know, would you not ? A. If we were up iu Bradley. 



Q. You said the fleet fished with you around Margaree iu 1852 and 

 1853? A. Yes; there might be one ten miles and another fifteen miles. 



Q. But there was no fleet ? A. It is hard to tell what you consider a 

 fleet of vessels. 



Q. Do you consider that a fair answer, that it is hard work to tell 

 what you consider a fleet ? A. Yes ; it is hard work to tell. 



Q. Was the fleet fishing with you or not around Margaree shore ? 

 Ai There might be perhaps a dozen trying with us; that is all. 



Q. That is all. Then they were not with you ? A. They were scattered 

 all round the bay trying to find mackerel. 



Q. You say there might be six vessels at a distance off? Is that all ? 

 A. I cannot remember whether there were six, eight, or ten. 



