AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2317 



Q. Where did you take them ? A. The first trip we caught alK>nt half 

 way between North Cape and Pigeou Hill. 



Q. Was Pigeon Hill in sight? A. Sometimes we could we the land. 



Q. Did you catch any fish anywhere else ! A. We caught all of our 

 first trip there and about that vicinity. 



Q. Where did you get the second trip ? A. We took about 230 bar- 

 rels up the island broad off Malpeque, ou what is called the Flat 

 Ground, 7 or 8 miles off Malpeque. We used to run off east north-east, 

 and we were sometimes 10 miles off, perhaps. 



Q. There is something like a bank in this part? A. Yes; we used to 

 call it the Flat Ground. 



Q. Did you get any fish anywhere else ? A. Yes, about 20 barrels off 

 Margaree, in the fall, when going home ; we finished our trip there. 



Q. In what vessel were you in 1852 ? A. I was in the same vessel up 

 to 1861, which was my last year in her. 



Q. You were eleven seasons in her? A. I was in her in 1851, and 

 from that time up to 18G1. 



Q. Where did you catch your fish during this period ? A. Our fish- 

 ing-ground was mostly at the Magdalen Islands and chiefly to the 

 nor'ard, and we used to catch a great many fish about Bonaveuture aud 

 Bank Bradley, but very few anywhere else. 



Q. During nine of these years the Reciprocity Treaty was in force, and 

 you then had a right to fish anywhere ? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you then catch any fish within the three mile limit? A. We 

 did not make a practice of fishing inshore. One thing is, our vessel 

 (the Bloomer) was a kind of long-legged sort of a vessel, drawing 10 feet 

 of water when in ballast; and when she had about 150 barrels of fish on 

 board she drew 12 feet, and so we did not fish inshore very much, though 

 we went in after supplies once or twice. 



Q. In about Prince Edward Island? A. Yes. 



Q. Where? A. Once at Oascuinpeque. We got some supplies there 

 from a man named Eider. 



Q. In what other place were you ? A. We were in Malpeque twice 

 for supplies. 



Q. What sort of harbors are these in time of danger ? A. In those 

 times I do not know anything about them of late years it was diffi- 

 cult to get in them when the water was rough. In smooth water a ves- 

 S"el could get in, but, nevertheless, I have seen vessels strike frequently 

 while entering. The last time I was at Malpeque I saw a vessel go 

 ashore, and finally we struck ourselves while going iu, aud drawing 12 

 feet of water. 



Q. It is not extraordinary for a vessel to draw 12 feet now when half 

 loaded and of the size yours was ? A. No. 



Q. After 18G1 you left the Bloomer ? A. Yes. 



Q. In what vessel did you next go ? A. The Prince of Wales. 



Q. This was in 1863 ? A. Yes. 



Q. What did you catch ? A. 942 sea-barrels. 



Q. What was her tonnage ? A. 188. 



Q. Where did you catch your fish ? A. We got them all at the Mag- 

 dalen Islands save 40 barrels, which we obtained at Flint Island, down 

 the Cape Breton shore, and close to Sydney. 



Q. Were you then within three miles of the main shore ?- 

 we were between the two, and I not know but that we were within three 

 miles of it part of the time. I do not know exactly how far we were off 

 shore. 



