2322 AWABD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Your catches were pretty much all the same? A. Yes; that was 

 about an average all along, during several years. 



Q. You remember where, out of 250 barrels taken in 1851, you caught 

 20? A. Yes. 



Q. And you told us where you caught the balance, and out of 940 

 barrels you mentioned where you caught 40 ; now out of 245, where did 

 you catch 45 barrels, for instance ? You told us where you caught 20 

 out of 250 ? A. Yes ; this was at Margaree Island. 



Q. And you remember that since 1851? A. Yes; that was the only 

 time when I did catch any fish there. 



Q. And out of 245 taken in 1855, where did you catch part? A. We 

 caught all our mackerel that year at the Magdalen Islands. 



Q. How many did you catch from 1851 to 1861 within the three-mile 

 limit I A. I shall not suppose that in all these years we took as many as 

 100 barrels of mackerel within three miles of the shore. 



Q. You did not catch 100 barrels inshore ? A. No. 



Q. Out of all your catches ? A. Yes. 



Q. Are you sure about that? A. Yes. 



Q. When did you catch them ? A. In 1863, we caught 40 barrels 

 inshore at Flint Island, in the Prince of Wales. 



Q. I mentioned the period between 1851 and 1861 ? A. During these 

 ten years we took 20 barrels at Margaree Island and also a few once 

 I could not say positively when off East Point. I could not swear that 

 this was within the three mile limit or not, but it might have been. 



Q. And out of all your catches you only took 100 barrels inshore ? 

 A. I say I could not swear as to this. I have nothing to go by. 



Q. Then you do not know what you caught within the three-mile limit 

 except these 20 barrels? A. What makes me so distinct about the 20 

 barrels is because I took them at Margaree Island. 



Q. You do not know whether you caught any more within the three- 

 mile limit ? A. No. I could not positively take oath to it. There are 

 only 20 barrels that I can swear to. 



Q. And you cannot say that you took any more within the three-mile 

 limit? A. No. 



Q. That is, you cannot tell where you caught them f A. Yes. 



Q. You cannot tell how far off the shore you took your fish ? A. I can 

 with respect to the Banks and the Magdalen Islands. 



Q. Can you tell whether you caught 100 barrels within the 3-mile 

 limit ? A. That was all the mackerel I caught inshore. Some of the 

 others might have been taken inshore, but I could not swear to it ; I 

 could not tell exactly by the eye whether I was 3 or 2 or 2 miles off 

 shore the real distance might have been within a quarter of a mile of 

 these distances. 



Q. You cannot tell because it is difficult to say what distance you are 

 from the shore ? A. Yes. 



Q. And sometimes you fish in a fog? A. I mean to say that I never 

 fished inshore long enough to know. I have not often fished when there 

 was a fog in the bay, but I have sometimes seen smoke there. 



Q. It is difficult to tell whether you are 3 miles from land or not ? A. 

 By looking at the land yes. 



Q. Then you cannot tell when you are fishiug within the 3 mile limit! 

 A. I am sure that we did not catch any mackerel within this limit except 

 the 20 barrels taken at Margaree Island. 



Q. You tell me it is difficult to say whether you are fishing within 2 

 or 2 or 3 miles of laud ? A. You cannot tell the exact distance within 



