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Q. Now, you have given us an account of your voyages, in 1874, 1875, 

 1876, and 1877 ; those are the years you used fresh bait f A. Yes. 



Q. You don't recollect your voyages for 1871, 1872, and 1873 ; those 

 were the years you used salt bait ? A. Those years we used salt bait. 



Q. You alleged just now that during the years you used salt bait 

 your voyages were superior to those made when you used fresh bait f 

 A. Yes. 



Q. Well, you don't remember your catches when you used salt bait ? 

 A. I don't remember the quantity of fish we took home, because I was 

 a hand. Probably I might have known if I had inquired into it. 



Q. How is it you pledge your oath that during the years you used 

 salt bait you took more fish than when you used fresh bait, when you 

 don't remember what quantity of fish you, took with the salt bait? A. 

 Well, I might have known nearly, but I could not tell exactly Miat fish 

 we took to a pound or so. 



Q. You have told me distinctly that you did not remember the quan- 

 tities you took in 1871, 1872, and 1873 ? A. No, I could not say ex- 

 actly. 



Q. You can't remember ? A. No. .1 know I got a good deal more 

 money. 



Q. If you can't remember the quantity of fish you took how can you 

 say you took more than in the four succeeding years ? A. Well, I can 

 tell, because the last two years I have been skipper myself, and the 

 other two I have been with a man that had been in this vessel before I 

 took her. I knew the nnmber of fish because he and I worked together, 

 and I found out what number. These other years I never asked the 

 skippers probably the number of fish we landed. 



Q. Well, you still affirm upon oath that you took larger quantities of 

 fish with salt bait than with fresh ? A. Well, not with salt bait, but 

 that and what we caught on the Banks. 



Q. You stated now that you took a larger quantity with salt bait than 

 with fresh ? A. Well, I didn't state that, but we catch bait on the 

 Banks as well as using salt bait. I told you we were catching part on 

 the Banks. 



Q. Then you say you caught a larger quantity when you didn't go into 

 the coast of Newfoundland ? A. Yes. 



Q. You are sure as to that now ? A. Yes. 



Q. You can't tell the Commission what quantity you took during 

 those years ? You can't remember ? A. Well, I could not tell you the 

 certain number. 



Q. Then how can you tell that the number was larger or smaller ? 

 A. Because I made more money. 



Q. Do you remember the amount of money you made in 1871 ? A. 

 Well, I could tell you, I suppose. 



Q. Will you tell us? A. I might figure it up. 



Q. Will you tell us what money you made in 1871 ? Can you recol- 

 lect ? A. I could not exactly tell you. 



Q. In 1872 ? If you can't, answer yes or no. A. What do you mean ? 

 Salt fish ? 



Q. What money did you make in 1872? A. I made about $500 I 

 think. 



Q. That is fresh and salt? A. Yes. 



Q. For the season ? A. Yes. 



Q. All the otber hands made the same ? A. Yes. 



Q. Do you remember what you made in 1873 ? A. No ; I could not 

 exactly tell you. 

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