2348 AWARD OF THE FISHERY" COMMISSION. 



Q. It is rather boisterous there when there is a wind ? A. Where is 

 it not ? 



Q. How could you protect yourself ? A. There is no wind, but you 

 can make a lee under the Islands, because you cau go all round them. 



Q. How about the north shore of Prince Edward Island ? A. We 

 consider it a very bad place. 



Q. Why ? A. You are embay^l, and the tide sets in there so from the 

 easterly that it is almost impossible to beat out. When the wind has 

 blown two hours the sea is so sharp a vessel can do nothing. 



Q. Do you regard that portion of the mackerel fishery which lies 

 within three miles of the shore in the Gulf of St. Lawrence as important 

 and valuable to American fishermen ! A. There is a very small part 

 of the mackerel caught within three miles of the land there or anywhere 

 or at the Magdalen Islands, that I know of, and I have always fished 

 with all the fleet and vessels there, although at times I have seen good 

 fishing at Margaree. Sometimes at Margaree the vessels fish within 

 three miles of the land. That is all the important inshore fishing I 

 know of in the whole bay. 



Q. In regard to the herring fishery at Grand Mauan,have you been in 

 that neighborhood after herring ? A. Yes, I suppose I was the man who 

 introduced that business. 



Q. How many years ago was that ? A. That is 25 years ago, I guess. 



Q. Did you go there to catch herring or to buy them 1 A. That is 

 the way all our vessels do; they go and buy them from the inhabitants 

 there who fish the herring and freeze them. 



Q. Do you know of any herring being caught by American fishing- 

 vessels in British waters about Grand Manan ? A. No; I never knew 

 any American vessel go there to fish for them. I have known the inhab- 

 itants there to charter American vessels and the skipper, and to give 

 the vessel such a part and the skipper such a part say they would give 

 them two shares. The vessel would lie in the harbor and they would 

 fish the herring, freeze them, and sell them. If there were four parties 

 they would reckon one share for the vessel, one share for the captain, 

 which with the others would make six shares. They several times 

 wanted to charter me to come down in the winter. 



Q. Have you ever seen American vessels there with herring nets? 

 A. I never did. Our nets and our fishermen cannot compete with Nova 

 Scotia fishermen for herring. 



Q. Why not? A. Their nets are finer and they understand the hang- 



, ing of them better. I have sold nets there and the people have taken 



them and seamed them, over, and the nets would do as well#gain as 



they did when I had them. There is no American I ever knew or heard 



of who went there to catch herring. 



Q. When were you there last ? A. I was down there last year, last 

 winter. 1 only stopped a little while. 



Q. You have now been speaking of the frozen herring ? A. Yes ; they 

 are frozen herring. 



Q. Have you ever known any American vessels to fish for herring to 

 salt or smoke in that vicinity ? A. No ; not there. 



Q. Eastport and Campobello are close to each other ? A. Yes. 



Q. And the line between the two countries, Campobello being British 

 and Eastport American, is the center of the channel, is it not ? A. Yes. 



Q. Which has the most inhabitants, Eastport or Campobello ! A. If 

 you take the, whole of Campobello there is not much difference, but 

 Eastport is the more thickly peopled. There are three villages in Cam- 

 pobello. The people told me they had no trouble over the fishing, and 



