2356 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMESSION. 



Q. Do you know Mr. James McLean, merchant, there ? A. I don't 

 know the name. I cannot recollect the name of one man there, though 

 J know a good many by sight. 



Q. Mr. McLean said: 



Q. You live close to the shore of the bay ? A. Close to the shore. 



Q. There are a number of harbo;s at that part of the coast: in which harbor do you carry 

 on business T A. We have a store a: Letite and another at Black Bay. 



Do you recognize him. They are both places in the Bay of Fuudy ? A. 

 They are 50 miles apart. 



Q. He keeps a store at each place. Are you acquainted with him ? 

 A. I am not acquainted with him. 



Q. Mr. McLean said : 



Q. You are acquainted with the fishery from Lepreau to Letite? A. Yes ; very well. 

 Q. That is along the mainland ? A. Yes. 



Q. Among the islands lying akng the coast are Campobello, Deer Island, and some minor 

 island* ? A Yes. 



Q. Besides Grand Manan ? A. Yes. . 



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Q. On the mainland, take from Lepreau to Letite, how many vessels and boats are em- 

 ployed by Bi iti.-h subjects ? A. From Lepreau to Letite I should think there are between 

 50 and 60 vessels. 



That is what he says with regard /to British fishing-vessels. Mr. Mc- 

 Lean further says : 



Q. Before the treaty of Washington, in 1871, how did you deal with the fish? Did the 

 Americans come in as much after the abrogation of the Reciprocity Treaty and before they 

 commenced under the Washington Treaty f A. Not catching herrings. 



Q. Did they do so after 1871 ? A. Yes. 



<J. Tell the Commission how you dealt with the herring before 1871 ? A. We dealt with 

 them as we do now. The Americans came down and bought them ; if not, we loaded a 

 vessel ourselves and shipped them frozen to New York. 



Q. Since the Washington Treaty, the Americans have come down and fished a great 

 deal ? A. Yes. 



Q. Are the fishing-grounds in your locality entirely in British waters ? A. Our herring 

 fishery is altogether in British waters all that I know of; I don't know of any in Ameri- 

 can waters. 



Q. Is that correct ? A. Yes. 

 Q. Mr. McLean said also : 



Q. How many fish in the winter time ? A. In the herring-fishing on our coast in winter 

 there are from 100 to 1^5 American vessels fishing, small and large. 



Is that true? A. I should think it was, if they call it fishing when 

 Gloucester vessels come down. 



Q. Are there that number of American vessels fishing in those wa- 

 ters ? A. I want you to tell me what you call lt fishing,'' whether by 

 money, hook and line, or nets. That many vessels go there to buy her- 

 ring. If you refer to 12o sail of American vessels, I will grant that 

 number of American vessels go there. 



Q. How do you know that ? A. I never counted them, but seeing so 

 large a number, and knowing so many, and that gentleman stating the 

 number to be 125, 1 don't doubt it. 



Q. He does not refer to Gloucester vessels. Is it true or not ? A. I 

 cannot swear to it. He says it is so, and I think it is. 



Q. He does not refer to Gloucester vessels ? A. He does not refer to 

 any places. 



Q. He says : 



Q. That is from Lepreau to Latite ? A. Yes, off Beaver Harbor, Black's Harbor, Black 

 Bay, and Lepreau. 



Q. What size are the vessels ? A. They range from 10 up to probably 40 or 50 tons. 



Is that correct ? A. ^fo. 



