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erel strike in on the Cape Breton shore when going down ? A. They 

 generally do so.' 



Q. And the vessels follow them ? A. But it is not often that they 

 stop more than a day or two. 



Q. Did you take the 50 barrels close inshore 1 A. No ; we were five 

 or six miles outside of the range of Margaree Island, I should think, 

 from the look of it. We were to the southwest of Margaree Island. 



Q. You were between Margaree Island and Mabou ? A. Yes. 



Q. When was this ? A. In 1864. 



Q. Would you undertake to swear at this length of time what dis- 

 tance you were then from the shore ? A. Well, I think it was what I 

 have told you. 



Q. You then had a right to fish inshore ? A. Yes; I think we were 

 about five miles off shore. 



Q. Would you swear to this ? A, I could not ; we never measured it. 



Q. Can you positively state the distance ? A. No ; no farther than I 

 have done to the best of my judgment. Generally, a man can tell two 

 miles from five or six. 



Q. I have heard witnesses say that they could not tell three miles 

 from five. A. I do not know about that; but I should think they could. 



Q. You think that there is no difficulty in telling the distance from 

 shore t A. O, yes. One could not tell it exactly, but I think a man 

 ought to tell whether he was three or five miles off. 



Q. You think there is no difficulty about it ? A. I should not think 

 so. 



Q. Is your memory very accurate ? A. Well, sometimes it is, and 

 sometimes I cannot remember some things. 



Q. What did you say you caught in 1874 ? A. 315 barrels. 



Q. And that only ? A. Yes ; and we made one trip that year. 



Q. When did you go to the bay ? A. In July. 



Q. Is your memory sufficiently clear on that point to state whether it 

 was in June or July ! A. Yes ; it was in July, after the 4th ; it might 

 have been on the 8th of that month. 



Q. You are reported in the return to which Mr. Foster called atten- 

 tion, to have been in the Gut on June 25th ? A. No; that is a mistake 

 or a misstatement. 



Q. Where were you September 1st, 1874 ? A. I do not know exactly; 

 but I think that about that time we went to Canso. 



Q. Can you tell me how many barrels you had on board then ? A. 

 Yes. Well, I think that we had somewhere about 270260 or 270 

 barrels. 



Q. You cannot remember the number exactly ! A. No ; not within 

 10 or 15 barrels. 



Q. You landed a portion of them ? A. Yes ; 50 barrels. 



Q. Do you know David Murray, collector of customs at the port 

 there? A. No. 



Q. How often have you been in Causo ? A. I was there every year I 

 was in the bay. 



Q. And you do not know Mr. Murray ? A. I suppose I may have seen 

 him, but I could not tell him now if I saw him. I suppose I have been 

 in his office. 



Q. Do you know the man ? A. I know there is such a man. 



Q. Have you ever spoken to him ? A. I could not say that I have, 

 but I have spoken either to him or to his clerk. I have been at his office. 



Q. Do you know him ? A. I do not say that I do, but I have seen 

 him or his clerk. I have been at his office. 

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