2370 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. What did you go there for ? A. To get a permit to land mack- 

 erel. 



Q. Were you accustomed to tell him what your catch was? A. Yes, 

 sometimes ; when he asked me I used to tell him. 



Q. Was he accustomed to ask you about it ? A. I do not know that 

 he was. 



Q. You gave voluntary information on the subject? A. No; I did 

 not tell without being asked. 



Q. If he did not ask you and if you did not give him voluntary informa- 

 tion, how is it you say you were accustomed to state what your catch 

 was! A. I told him it when he asked me about it, but I could not 

 swear that he asked me about it. 



Q. Do you mean at any special time! Don't quibble about it. A. 

 No ; I could not swear that Murray ever asked me what my catch was, 

 and I do not swear whether I know the man. 



Q. Do you or do you not know the collector of Port Mulgrave, 

 David Murray? Have you ever seen him? A. I do not know, but I 

 have been at his office. 



Q. Have you there seen a man you believed to be him ? A. I do not 

 know as I took notice. I went there fora permit : it was given, me and 

 I went off. 



Q. Did you ever state at his office what your catch was ? A. I do 

 not remember that I ever did so. 



Q. Did you state to me a few moments ago that you had done so? 

 A. 1 do not know as I did. 



Q. Do you recollect stating that you told him or his clerk what your 

 <5atch was ? A. I told you I did so if he asked me about it. 



Q. Did they ask you about it ! A. I could not say ; they may and 

 they may not. I cannot recollect. 



Q. Do I understand yon to say that your recollection is an absolute 

 blank on that point ; you do not remember stating your catch or whether 

 they asked you about it ? A. No ; I do not. 



Q. Were you there on October 20, 1874 ? A. No. 



Q. You were not there at Port Mulgrave ? A. No. 



Q. Were you there September 1st, 1874 ? A. Well, I was only there 

 that once. I do not know when it was, but I think it was somewhere 

 in the first part of September. That'is the only time we were there, 

 save when we came from home. We stopped at Pirate's Cove, -two or 

 three miles below Port Mulgrave. 



Q. Is that where Murray's office is ! A. No. 



Q. And you do not know whether you saw him or not! A. No. 



Q. But you may have seen him ? A. I do not know the man. I could 

 not tell him if I saw him. 



Q. In this report to which your attention has been called, it is men- 

 tioned that the Alferetta, a Gloucester vessel, landed fish there the 1st of 

 September, and was there October 20th, 1874, on the second trip with 

 170 barrels. A. That is not correct. 



Q. What was your total catch that year? A. 315 barrels or there- 

 abouts. 



Q. Mr. Murray reports it 400 barrels ? A. That is the way reports 

 get carried round, repeated many times; and they thus make one have 

 more fish than he caught. I think this is the case sometimes. 



Q. Were you more than once in the Gut of Canso that year? A. We 

 were there three times on our way up, and on our way home, and once 

 to land some fish. 



