2372 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Do you know John F. Campion ? A. Tes ; he was with us that 

 trip. 



Q. Do yon know that he has been examined here ? A. Yes. 



Q. Have you had his statement read to you ? A. Yes, I have seen it 



Q. And you heard what he said about that first trip in the Al fer- 

 etta? A. Yes. 



Q. He was asked 



Q. What was your catch in the Alferetta that year ? A. During the one trip that I was 

 in her we caught 300 barrels. 



Q. Were they caught outside the three-mile limit or close inshore ? A. Some were caught 

 between East Point, Margaree, and the balance around the island and the Magdalen Isl- 

 ands. 



Q. What distance were you from the shore ? A. One-third of that trip was caught be- 

 tween East Point and the Magdalen Islands, and the balance close to the shore of both 

 islands. 



A. That is not correct ; we never hove to in sight of the island. 



Q. Your memory differs from his on that point? A. Well, I cannot 

 help that. We went right straight to the Magdalen Islands, and we 

 left there the latter part of August. 



Q. And you are equally sure that you did not catch any fish that 

 year within the three-mile limit, as you are that you did not do so any 

 other year ? A. I am certain as to that year, because we were full of 

 mackerel when we went home. 



Q. Do you mean to speak from your recollection as to that year, re- 

 specting the distance you fished from the shore, as distinct from and bet- 

 ter than for other years? A. No ; but I can tell when we catch fish 

 at the Magdalen Islands when we get whole fares there. 



Q. You are just as sure respecting other years as this year ? A. I 

 do not know about other years when we get fish at different places ; 

 but when I catch a whole trip at a certain place, I recollect that pretty 

 well. 



Q. You did not catch that whole trip at the Magdalen Islands ? 

 A. Yes, we did. 



Q. Where did you catch the second trip that year? A. Mostly at 

 the Magdalen Islands, and between them and Margaree. 



Q. Did you take any portion of it at Margaree ? A. No ; but the 

 last day we fished after we left Magdalen Islands, we were just in sight 

 of Margaree. 



Q. You do not appear to have fished, except on one occasion, within 

 three miles of the shore ? A. I never caught any fish inshore to amount 

 to anything. 



Q. In 1866 you took out a license ? A. Yes. 



Q. You had fished in the bay for 14 years previously, and though you 

 had never caught any fish inshore, you deemed it necessary to take out a 

 license then f A. I thought the license was cheap, and I had heard a 

 good deal about vessels being driven round, and so I thought I would 

 take one. 



Q. But you did not catch any fish that year within the three-mile 

 limit? A. I do not know that we did, save at the Magdalen Islands. 



Q. The price of the licenses doubled the next year, and still you took 

 out another. What explanation have you to make as to your motives 

 for doing so? A. If we found mackerel anywhere inshore, we could 

 have fished there. 



Q. And still during sixteen years you had never taken any fish 

 within three miles of the shore? A. Yes; but 1 might not have got 

 fish at the Magdalen Islands that year, and then 1 could have gone 

 somewhere else. 



