2376 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. How do you- know that you did not stop at Port Mul grave on your 

 way out ? A. Because we never stop there ; we never did so in iny life. 



Q. Did you stop at Pirate's Cove ? A. Yes ; we always do stop there. 



Q. Were you in Pirate's Cove on the 20th of October, 1874 ? A. We 

 might have been. We generally go out the 20th or the 25th of that month, 

 though some vessels stay a little later. 



Q. You were in the bay somewhere on that 20th of October ? A. Yes. 



By Mr. Weatherbe : 



Q. You are mistaken about Port Mulgrave ; all the part you mention 

 is Mulgrave? A. I do not know but that it is. 



By Mr. Foster: 



Q. Where is the place at which Murray's office was? A. It was at 

 the place we call Mulgrave. 



Q. The first date, 25th of June, cannot be right? A. No. 



Q. But on the 20th of October you may have been at Pirate's Cove? 

 A. I could not say that, but we might have then been going out of the 

 bay. 



Q. What did you stop there for that year ? A. We had some mack- 

 erel to take in ; some 50 barrels. 



Q. And what else had you to do there ? A. We put a few empties 

 ashore to make room for the others, and took in a little wood, water. 

 &c. 



Q. How many empty barrels did you remove ? A. As many as we 

 had landed. 



Q. Can there be any mistake at all about the number of mackerel ? 

 A. No, I do not think it. There cannot be any mistake. We did not 

 make but one trip that year, and we did not have a full trip. I am sure 

 of that. 



Q. As to John F. Campion, I notice on the 33d page of the evidence, 

 British side, that he was examined and answered as follows : 



Q. This was in the year 1865 T A. I was then in the Alferetta still ; her captain was 

 named Cash. 



Who was then captain of the Alferetta ? A. I was her skipper every 

 year since she was built. 



Q. Were you part owner of her in 1865 ? A. Yes, and ever since she 

 was four months old up to last fall. 



Q. Was Campion with you in 1865 ? A. Xo. He was never with us 

 save on one, trip. 



Q. Is there a Gloucester captain named Cash ! A. Yes, but I could 

 not say whether he was fishing that year. I only know one captain of 

 that name. 



Q. In 1863 Campion was with you on one trip ? A. Yes, it was on the 

 first trip. 



Q. Was it the first trip of the year ? A. It was the first mackerel 

 voyage. 



Q. Was he with you cod-fishing ? A. He went on the first trip. We 

 shipped him at the Island after we went down there. 



Q. He says you shipped him at Gloucester? A. We did not do so ; 

 he shipped at the island. 



Q. His evidence is as follows on this point : 



Q. And the next year, 1863 f A. I was also then in the fishing business. 



Q. In what vessel T A. The schooner Alferetta, Captain Rowe. 



Q. Did you begin early that year T A. Yes ; we started in July. 



Q. Where did you go f A. We came to the Bay of the St. Lawrence. 



Q. Was she a Gloucester schooner ? A. Yes. 



