2392 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. What year did you say you were first a skipper ? A. '64 I think 

 it was. 



Q. I will just run rapidly through your fishing experience since that 

 time. What was the first schoouer of which you were in command ? 

 A. The Eclipse. 



Q. What did you do the first year? A. We followed the George's 

 fishing until along in July. Some time in the first of July. Then fitted 

 for mackerel on the shore between Mount Desert and Cape Cod. 



Q. How many barrels of mackerel did you take off the shores of the 

 United States that year? A. Somewhere about 260 barrels I think. 



Q. Take the next year, 1865? A. We were in about the same busi- 

 ness the same voyage. We landed about the same number of barrels. 

 Somewhere in that vicinity. 



Q. W T hen fishing off the CTnited States coast did you make one trip 

 or a number of trips ? A. We made a number of trips. 



Q. What were you doing in 1866? A. In 1866. 1 was in Bay Cha- 

 leurs or the Gulf of St. Lawrence. 



Q. You use two terms. Do you mean one and the same thing ? 

 A. One is called the Gulf of St. Lawrence and the other the Bay Chal- 

 eurs. The fishermen call it Bay Chaleurs sometimes. 



Q. It is the same thing you mean. The whole gulf goes by the name 

 of Bay Chaleurs sometimes ? A. Yes. 



Q. What is the Bay Chaleurs proper ? A. It is a small bay to the 

 northward. The fishermen call the whole gulf Bay Chalenrs. 



Q. What was the size of the vessel you were in in 1866? A. About 

 140 tons. 



Q. What was her name ? A. 



Q. How many barrels of mackerel did she take ? A. 500 barrels we 

 landed. 



Q. Did you go home with that one trip ? A. Yes; we were here all 

 the season. 



Q. She was a large vessel. How many hands did she have ? A. 20 

 men. 



Q. Now, where were these mackerel caught ? A. They were caught 

 at different places in the bay, at Bradley, Orphan, and Magdaleus, and 

 srrouud Margaree and Port Hood, around there in the fall. Late in the 

 fall we got up as far as that. 



Q. Have you been in the gulf fishing for mackerel since that year ? 

 A. Not until last year. 



Q. How many years had you been there before 1864 ? A. I had been 

 here four seasons. 



Q. Taking your entire fishing experience, I wish you would tell the 

 Commission what was the principal ground on which you caught mack- 

 erel. What was the principal fishing ground ? A. Banks Bradley and 

 Orphan, and the Magdalen Islands were our principal fishing ground. 



Q. Now, to what extent have you fished within three miles of the 

 shore? A. Well, but very little. I don't recollect ever catching but 

 very few fish inside of three miles until this year. 



Q. When you have been in boats? A. Yes. 



Q. I wish you would explain to the Commission how the vessel-fish- 

 ing is carried on, and how the boat fishing is carried on, and what is the 

 difference between them, as you understand? A. Well, the vessel-fish- 

 ing is more in deep water and offshore. They go searching after fish. 

 In the boat-fishing, we lie and wait tor the fish to come to us. 



Q. Can the vessels get fish in the places where the boats usually 

 fish ? A. Not to any extent. 



