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and mackereling. The first year after the treaty was up 1 was at home. 

 I am certain of that. 



Q. You mean you went cod-fishing ? A. Yes. 



Q. What else did you catch ? A. I was catching menhaden for oil, I v 

 think, that year. 



Q. 'Are there plenty of menhaden to be found on your coast? A. 

 Yes. Steamers get each from 25,000 to 26,000 barrels almost every year. 

 I think there are 31 steamers this year. 



Q. Where do they take the pogies. Is there a place to manufacture 

 the oil nearPortland ? A. There are several of them there, and at Round 

 Point and Booth Bay. 



Q. When did you next go into the bay ? A. 1867 or 1868, I don't 

 know which ; 1867, I think, but 1 could not be certain. 



Q. W 7 hat did you catch ? A. Mackerel. 



Q. How many trips did you make? A. Two trips; we landed one 

 small trip and sent it home. 



Q. What did you catch the first trip ? A. I think 190 or 200 barrels. 



Q. What did you get the second trip ? A. About 70 barrels 1 think 

 we carried home. 



Q. Out of those 260 barrels, how much did you catch inshore ? A. 

 We, perhaps, might have caught 40 barrels. We fished some inshore 

 and some off shore. We had a license that year. 



Q. Having a license, you tried inshore, did you? A. Yes, we tried 

 inshore; but the fishing was not as good inshore, and there was better 

 fishing off shore ; and we got the greater part of them off shore. 



Q. Do you mean there were more fish off shore, or was it in regard to 

 their fatness ? A. There were more off shore. 



Q. You did not catch enough inshore to pay the license ? A.' I don't 

 remember whether we did or not. 



Q. Were you master then ? A. Yes. 



Q. You tried the inshore fishing ? A. Yes ; we tried it when we were 

 inshore. 



Q. Take the next four years, where were you fishing ? A. I don't re- 

 member whether I was in the bay next year or not. In 1869 or 1870 I 

 think I was in the bay. 



Q. Did you have a license ? A. No, we had no license then. 



Q. You had a license only one year I A. Yes. 



Q. W T ere you cod-fishing during the next four years at all ? A. No. 



Q. Only catching mackerel ? A. Yes. 



Q. Generally, where did you catch your fish when you were in the 

 bay ? A. We caught some at Magdalen Islands, and from Point Miscou 

 to North Cape and Bank Bradley. 



Q. During that period of time where did you find your largest and best 

 fish ? A. We fished on what we call the West shore, between Point Es- 

 cumiuac and northward of North Cape, ten or twelve miles out. We did 

 the best there, I think. 



Q. During the whole of the four years, where did you find any fish 

 inshore ? Did you try inshore ? A. I was only two of those four years 

 in the bay, and the other two I was on our shores ; I think in 1869 and 

 1870 or 1868 and 1869 1 was in the bay. 



. Q. During those two years, where did you find your best fishing with- 

 out regard to particular localities inshore or out f A. We found the 

 best fishing off shore. We did not find any vessels inshore at all. We 

 were in a new vessel, the cutters were there, and we did not try inshore 

 at all. We fished at Magdalen Islands. 



Q. Did you find satisfactory fishing J ? We got a fair trip, though we 



