AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2423 



Q. And others to the bend of the island! A. Yes. 



Q. Then you would not be able to tell what others did ? A. No. 



Q. Have you ever met Charles W. Dunn, a fisherman, who has fre- 

 quently fished in American vessels ? A. I have met a man named.* 

 Peter Dunn, but I do not know any Charles Dunn. 



Q. He deposes : 



That in 1870, I was about two months and a half fishing in the gulf, in tho Reunion, 

 during which time we got four hundred and thirty barrels of mackerel. She was sev- 

 enty-four tons and carried fifteen bauds. 



A. Yes ; but I thought she was sold out in California before that time. 

 Q. You do not remember her fishing that year ? A. No ; I know 

 nothing about it at all. 

 Q. He continues: 



That in 1871, 1 was in the Rambler for eight weeks, fishing in the gulf. We took 

 out two hundred and eighty barrels of mackerel. We came into the gulf late that 

 season. She was sixty-three tons, and that time carried thirteen hands. 



That fully three-quarters of the fish taken in these schooners were taken close to the 

 shore, or within three miles along this island, Miscou, Bay Chaleur, the Magdalens, and 

 other places on the British coasts. Taking the season through, the inshore fishing is 

 the best. I believe that it would not be at all worth while to fit out for this gulf if 

 the vessels were not allowed to fish inshore. 



Q. Had you a license when in the bay ? A. No. 



Q. You know nothing about the cutters? A. Yes; when I was there, 

 in 1872, there were cutters in the bay. There were plenty of cutters, but 

 no fish. 



Q. When there were plenty of cutters in the bay there were no fish 

 for Americans ? A. Yes ; that is probable ; but 



Q. Do you want to explain that any further? A. Just so; but the 

 Nova Bcotian vessels had the same trouble, too. 



Q. Were they kept out ? A. The Nova Scotiau vessels did not do 

 any better than our own vessels. That is between you and me. 



Q. We want to know about it. A. That is the idea, and the true 

 thing. 



Q. That is just what we want to come at and ascertain. A. Yes; go 

 on. 



Q. <Lf you have any information to give about it. Were they kept out 

 of the 3-inile limit ? A. No. 



Q. Were you ? A. Yes ; we were. 



Q. Constantly ? A. But there were no fish inshore or offshore. 



Q. Were you kept constantly outside of the 3-mile limit ? A. Well, 

 no ; I could not say that we were constantly, because the cutters would 

 not be in sight all the time, of course. 



Q. What vessel were you in then ? A. The George Clark ; year 

 1872. 



Q. When the cutters were out of sight, would you steal inside of the 

 3 mile limit? A. No; we would not. 



Q. You did not try to go in ? A. No. 



Q. 5Tou never fished inside of the 3-raile limit? A. No. 



Q. You never hove to inside of the three-mile limit? A. No; I do 

 not think that I ever did so in my life. Of course if there had been any 

 fish inshore or any inducement for us to go in we would have done so. 



Q. And you never tried inshore in your life ? A. I never did ; no. 



Q. You never heard of three-quarters of the fish being taken within 

 the three-mile limit, as mentioned in C. W. Dunn's deposition ? A. Yes; 

 I have heard tell of vessels fishing inshore. 



Q. And making large catches ? A. No ; I never heard that. 



