2432 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



achs on the Banks? A. Caplin and lantz, and what we call Bank 

 clams and crabs. 



Q. Have you fished for cod on Western Banks, Grand Banks, and 

 George's Bank? A. Yes. 



Q. Have yon observed any difference between the cod on these several 

 Banks? A'. Yes. 



Q. Can yon describe it ? A. Yes. The Western Bank cod are not 

 nearly so large as the Grand Bank cod ; there is more of a black nape 

 ou the former than on the latter, and tbe former are not so well fed, and 

 they are very watery and slim. The Grand Bank cod are the largest 

 fisb, and they resemble each other more as to quality. They are large, 

 white naped, and well fed better fed than the Western Bank cod. The 

 latter are small and black, and they are thinner than the others. 



By Mr. Foster : 



Q. What do you mean by black naped? A. Tbe nape is the belly 

 part it is a little tbiu skin over tbe belly of the fish. 



Q. Your family does not have to get advances in your business ? A. 

 No. and I am not posted much in tbat line. 



No. 42. 



FRIDAY, October 5, 1877. 

 Tbe Conference met. 



ROBERT H. HULBERT, fisherman, of Gloucester, was called, on behalf 

 of the Government of the United States, sworn and examined. 



By Mr. Foster: 



Question. How old are you ? Answer. Thirty-five. 



Q. Where were you born ? A. In Yarmouth, Xova Scotia. 



Q. You have been a fisherman and captain of fishing and trading ves- 

 sels for some years ? A. Yes. 



Q. When did you first fish for mackerel in the Gulf of Saint Law- 

 rence? A. In 1861, I think. 



Q. In what vessel were yon then ? A. The .Roger Williams. 



Q. What was the name of her captain ? A. Lane. 



Q. How many fish did you take ? A. Two hundred and sixty barrels, 

 I believe, but I would not be certain. 



Q. Have you any means of refreshing your memory as to dates and 

 catches? A. No. 



Q. You are now pilot on the Speedwell ? A. Yes, 



Q. Where did you catch your fish the first year you were in the gulf! 

 A. Principally at the Magdalen Islands. The last we caught were 

 taken near Fisherman's Bank, between Cape George and Prince Edward 

 Island. 



Q. Were any portion taken within 3 mile** of the shore? A. I could 

 not say; but probably not more than one-eighth were so caught, as I 

 have found this to be the case on different trips made since. 



Q. What were you doing from J8G2 to 18G5 ? A. I was engaged in 

 different kinds of fishing, but mostly in cod-fishing. I sometimes fished 

 for mackerel on our own coast. 



Q. When did you make your second mackerel trip to the gulf? A. I 

 cannot l>e certain as to the year, because it was some time afterwards. 



Q. What was the name of your vessel ? A. The Pocumtuc, I think. 



Q. Who was her captain ? A. George H. Hurlbert, mv brother. 



Q. You cannot fix that year accurately ? A. No. 



Q. What was your catch ? A. About 180 barrels. 



