AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2433 



Q. Where were they taken ? A. At the Magdalen Islands principally. 

 Some were caught near Margaree Island, Cape Breton. 



Q. How many were caught there ? A. We only fished there one day, 

 to the best of my recollection, and we got something in the neighbor- 

 hood of 30 or 35 barrels. 



Q. Were auy taken that year by you within three miles of the 

 shore ? A. A certain number of vessels fish around Prince Edward 

 Island and the coast of Cape Breton at different places. Some fish near 

 the Port Hood Islands, on the west coast of Cape Breton. 



Q. But where were these 180 barrels taken ? A. At the Magdalen 

 Islands principally. We staid there as long as we could, with regard to 

 the weather. We left them somewhere near the middle of October ; 

 but I cannot remember the exact time. 



Q. Where did you then go f A. To Port Hood, for a harbor. 



Q. Were the mackerel you took near Margaree Island caught either 

 within three miles of the island or the mainland ? A. They were prob- 

 ably taken within three miles of Margaree Island. 



Q. But not within three miles of the mainland ? A. No. 



Q. Were they taken outside of that island ? A. Yes. 



Q. When did you make your third trip to the Gulf of St. Lawrence ? 

 A. I cannot remember the year exactly ; but the next vessel in which I 

 went there was the Aphrodite, Captain Calderwood. 



Q. How many barrels of mackerel did you take ? A. Two hundred 

 and seventy. 



Q. Where were they taken ? A. Principally between North Cape, 

 Prince Edward Island, and Miscou Island, up the west shore. 



Q Was any portion of them taken within three miles of the sho're? 

 A. We did not fish much in auy other part of the bay. There did not 

 seem to be any fish at the Magdalen Islands that summer of any consev 

 quence. The fish were scarce there that year, and we took the most 

 part of our fish up in that part of the bay. We took none of auy con- 

 sequence anywhere else. 



Q. To what part of the bay do you particularly allude f A. To that 

 between North Cape and Point Miscou. 



Q. Were they taken within three miles of the shore ? A. I should 

 not say that they were. 



Q. Can you give any reason why they were not ? A. It is because 

 you cannot raise a body of mackerel in such shoal water as is generally 

 found three miles from the shore on that part of the coast. 



Q. What is the shoalest water in which you usually raise a school of 

 mackerel ? A. We cannot raise a school, to make it profitable to lay to 

 and heave over bait, in short of 20 or 25 fathoms of water. 



Q. Is the water as deep as that along the shore between North Cape 

 and Point Miscou within three miles of the shore ? A. I think not. 



Q. Have you fished along the north shore of Prince Edward Island ? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. You were only in the gulf for mackerel during three years ? A. 

 No ; I was there two years since that. 



Q. Did you fish along the bend of the island during the early years 

 when you were in the bay I A. Yes ; but very little ; nothing of any 

 consequence. 



Q. How near the shore do you anchor when seeking a lee off the bend 

 of the island ? A. From 2 to 2 miles of the shore. 



Q. And then when you weigh anchor and try to fish again, do you 

 begin to fish from the anchorage ground, or do you run out farther ? A. 

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