AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2445 



Q. Ton made two trips when in the bay. How was it that year ? 

 A. Very dull. 



Q. Did you try inshore and ontshore both ? A. Yes. 



Q. Now in 1877, this year, when did you go into the bay ? A. I went . 

 to the bay in August. I went through Ganseau. 



Q. Are you in here for harbor ? A. Yes. 



Q. When did you come in ? A. Day before yesterday. 



Q. Are you homeward bound ? A. Yes. 



Q. When did you leave the fishing-grounds, or come through the 

 Gut ? A. We came through Canseau a week ago ; we came last Satur- 

 day. 



Q. How much did you get all this time? A. 110 barrels. 



Q. And you tried inshore and outshore both? A* Yes. 



Q. What parts of the bay have you been ? A. We have been from 

 what we call the West Shore to Port Hood. 



Q. You fished all around ? A. Yes. 



Q. And that is the best you could do ? A. Yes. 



Q. How much can your vessel carry ? A. I fitted for 200. We had 

 a small vessel. 



Q. This won't pay? A. No, I don't think it will. 



Q. Did you heave to in the Bend ? A. Yes, I tried coming down. 

 We hove to two or three times. 



Q. Did you find anything ? A. Perhaps we might catch half a dozen 

 mackerel. 



Q. Not half a dozen barrels I A. No. 



Q. Those were not very large were they ? A. Well, they were what 

 we term No. 2, small fry. 



Q. You have been codfishing how many seasons, do you think, in 

 all ? A. I have been codfishing five seasons in the same vessel. That 

 is what we term spring fishing, not the season right through. 



Q. Have you used salt bait or fresh ? A. Salt bait always, with the 

 exception of one trip that we caught mackerel and had them spoil on 

 our hands. 



Q. Did you find the salt bait successful ? A. Yes. 



Q. Hand-lining? A. Yes. 



Q. Have you a trawl also ? A. No, sir. 



Q. You haven't found it necessary to go in for fresh bait ? A. No, sir. 



By Mr. Weatherbe : 



Q. I don't know whether you mentioned the number of barrels you 

 caught in .1876 ? A. I don't think I was asked it. 



Q. About how many ? A. 120 barrels. 



Q. What vessel had yon in 1876 ? A. The Esperanza. 



Q. The same as now ? A. Yes. 



Q. What is her tonnage ? A. 43 tons, American tonnage. 



Q. She got pretty well for that tonnage ? A. Well, we didn't call it 

 so, with 12 men. 



Q. Are 12 men a fair average number in a vessel that size ? A. Yes, 

 sir. 



Q. You caught one-third inshore ? Is that the average ? A. Yes, sir, 

 generally. 



Q. It is, in your best judgment? A. In my best judgment we gen- 

 erally caught one-third or somewhere about that. 



Q. That would be a fair average, I suppose ? A. Yes, sir. 



Q. Sometimes more and sometimes less, but from one-third toone-half ? 



Mr. DANA. He didn't say that. 



