AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2455 



Q. In 1874 you were in the Alice? A. Yes. 



Q. You are sure that was the year? A. Yes. 



Q. You left her. How many trips did you make ? A. Only one trip. 

 I left her at Portland when she came home that trip. 



Q. Who was the master ? A. Elbridge Love. 



Q. Had you any Nova Scotia fishermen in her ? A. I don't know 

 that we did. I cannot say. We had all kinds, Spaniards, Portuguese, 

 French. 



Q. Any from the provinces ? A. No; I don't think we did. 



Q. None at all ? A. No. 



Q. In some of these other years, did you have fishermen belonging to 

 the provinces ? A. No ; mostly from the State of Maine from Belfast. 



Q. But this year, 1874, you had foreigners ? A. Yes; we had mostly. 



Q. Not much accustomed to fishing 1 A. Poor fishermen generally. 



Q. How many tons was she ? A. I think from 71 to 76 tons ; 71, I 

 am pretty sure. 



Q. The previous vessel, what was her name ? A. The Oak Grove; 

 that was 1868. 



Q. In 1869 ? A. I was in the James Jewett. 



Q. The next one, what was the name? A. That was in 1872 the 

 Mary Louise. 



Q. Had you Spaniards and Portuguese that trip? A. No: mostly 

 Americans. 



Q. What was her tonnage? A. I could not say exactly what the 

 tonnage was. I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 or 75 tons. 



Q. You caught your mackerel four miles off ? A. Yes. 



Q. What proportion ? A. Half of them. I could not tell. 



Q. I suppose that would be the distance you would select as being 

 good fishing ? A. Yes, sir. 



Q. That would be the best fishing you have ? A. Yes, sir. 



Q. I suppose most of the fishermen fished that distance ? A. Yes ; 

 they generally fished off there, near four or five miles. 



Q. It is considered about the best fishing, four or five miles ? A. 

 Yes ; it is. 



Q. I suppose in some places the fish would go in three and a half 

 miles ? A. Yes, some fish do. 



Q. You would not mind coming in three and a half miles if you were 

 four miles out. I suppose sometimes they would manage to get in, 

 three miles ? A. No vessels I have ever been in. 



Q. I am not speaking of the vessels, but the fish is there anything 

 to stop them at four miles ? A. No. 



Q. There is no obstruction of any kind. Just as good water ? A. 

 Y.es ; only a little shallower. 



Q. Just as good feed ? A. Yes. 



Q. Perhaps better feed ? A. Well, most generally the gales drive 

 them off, but they come back again. 



Q. I suppose when the wind is a little off shore the best feed would 

 be inside, closer in ? A. Yes. 



Q. Closer inside than four miles? A. I should say so. 



Q. They would then go in pretty close ? A. Yes. 



Q. You would then go in there and drift off? A. Yes. 



Q. And the fleet would do that. We have evidence of that. The 

 fleet would run in as close as they could get and then drift off ? A. Yes ; 

 that was the way they fished. 



Q. As close as they could get in ? A. Not within four miles. 



Q. I was referring to a little closer. I wanted to con.e in a little 



