2478 AWARD OF THE FISIJERY COMMISSION. 



Q. They were taken from the mud below the ice ? A. Yes ; at the 

 deepest part of the island. 



Q. When thus taken, would the film be over the eye ? A. I don't 

 know. I only saw one caught in that way, and I did not take notice of 

 that point. 



Q. Do you know whether the mackerel winter in the mud ? A. I 

 could not say, but we have reason to think they do. That is the general 

 opinion of fishermen that the mackerel winter in the mud. 



Q. Do the mackerel remain on George's Shoal all the season, as the 

 mackerel do at Block Island? A. Some seasons they do, and other 

 seasons they remain there only a short time. They have been taken 

 there some years during all the season. 



Q. "You were five seasons fishing in the gulf, I believe! A| Yes. 



Q. At what special places did you fish while there ? A. The principal 

 part of my fishing in Gulf St. Lawrence was at the Magdalen Islands. 



Q. You never fished much in other parts? A. Not greatly; I have 

 fished in other parts of the bay. 



Q. Have you ever fished in Bay Chaleurs ? A. Yes, one summer. 

 We spent one week there one summer. 



Q. What year was it ? A. I cannot remember the year. 



Q. Can you remember the vessel you were in ? A. I think it was in 

 the Pocumtuc. 



Q. That would be some time in 1865? A: About that time. 



Q. Had you any license at that time? A. I cannot recoil ect whether 

 we had or not ; but I don't remember hearing anything about a license. 



Q. Was there much of a fleet in Bay Chaleurs when you were there ? 

 A. No ; there were three vessels there. 



Q. Where did you go ? A. We went up as far as Port Daniel, on the 

 north side of the bay. 



Q. Did you fish close to the shores at all ? A. We tried round in the 

 bay, but we did not find anything. 



Q. You did not go on the south side ? A. No. 



Q. Did you fish off the Gaspe coast, and up at Bonaventure ? A. I 

 never fished there. 



Q. Or at Seven Islands ? A. No. 



Q. You don't know anything about those fishing-grounds ? A. No. 



Q. Have you tried along the west coast of New Brunswick, from 

 Miscou Point to Miraniichi? A. I fished part of one summer along 

 there. 



Q. Did you fish close inshore there ? A. We did not fish close in- 

 shore, for the water is too shallow to raise a body of mackerel. We 

 fished from North Cape, P|-iuce Edward Island, to Miscou Island. 



Q. Did you fish within Ahree rf.iles of the shore on the west side of 

 New Brunswick? A. Toiny certain knowledge, I did not. 



Q. Then you don't know anything of that fishing-ground ? A. No. 



Q. Have you fished within three miles of the shore at Prince Edward 

 Island ? A. Undoubtedly I have at different times. 



Q. And you caught nothing to speak of? A. Yes ; I anchored there 

 many times under the lee of the land at different parts of the island. 



Q. You did not catch many mackerel ? A. We never took but very 

 few mackerel inside of what we supposed was three miles off shore, ac- 

 cording to the soundings laid down on our chart, and the soundings we 

 found with our lead. 



Q. What chart did you use? A. Eldridge's, mostly. 



Q. An American chart? A. Yes. 



Q. You did not use Bayfield's chart? A. Not much. 



