AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2495 



Q. What bave you been doing sioce 1872 ? A. Coasting and trading, 



Q. You have not been fishing since then ? A. No, save last year 

 when I fished with seines for herring. 



Q. Where f A. At the Magdalen and Auticosti Islands. 



Q. Was your fishiug a success or a failure ! A. The fish were plenti- 

 ful where we were. 



Q. From what you learned from other vessels, what was the result of 

 the mackerel fishing last year ? A. These fish were then very scarce as 

 I could understand. 



(,). You know Halifax pretty well? A. Yes. 



o. Are there any fishing vessels fitted out in Halifax? A. I could 

 not say, but I do not think that many are fitted out here. There may 

 be some for all I kuow. 



Q. Do you know of one ? A. No, not down our way. 



(>. But' in the port of Halifax ? A. I could not say that for certain I 

 know of one so fitted out. 



By Mr. Doutre : 



Q. Who requested you to come here as a witness ? A. Mr. Mackasey 

 introduced me to these gentlemen-, and they asked me a few questions 

 concerning the matter and I gave them my opinion as far as my little 

 experience goes. 



Q. What were you asked ? A. I was asked concerning the fisheries 

 in and off shore. 



Q. You were asked your opinion about them ? A. Yes. 



Q. Were you asked what you yourself had seen ? A. Yes ; and what 

 experience I had had in tishiug. 



Q. How often have you fished in the Gulf of St. Lawrence ? A. I 

 have fished there some three or four summers, three to the best of my 

 knowledge, that is for part of the season. 



Q. This includes the years when you were fishing with your brothers ? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. Were you exclusively fishing for cod I A. Yes, we went for the 

 purpose of catching cod. 



Q. Where have you been fishing f A. In the bay, to Labrador, over 

 about Anticosti, and down around Sydney and Cape North, and all 

 around this shore. 



Q. You were always looking for cod ? A. Yes. 



Q. How far did you fish from Auticosti? A. About 9 miles be- 

 tween it and Labrador on the banks there. We generally made a har- 

 bor at Mingan, on the Labrador coast, and got our bait there. 



Q. What are you doing now ? A. Nothing. I sold my vessel this 

 summer, and I am building a vessel, which is not yet finished. 



Q. Where were you when the conversation took place which led to 

 your coming here as a witness? A. I came up to Halifax on business, 

 and being well acquainted with Mr. Mackasey my meeting him led to 

 my coming here. 



Q. You say you only fished for mackerel for bait ? A. Yes. 



Q. Where did you look for that bait I A. AYe often tried for it when 

 laying at anchor on the ground where we fished for cod, and we would 

 catch some mackerel there sometimes ; at other times we would go in- 

 shore and we would find some there. 



Q. How far off shore? A. From 2 to 3 or 4 or 5 miles. 



Q. What dp you call inshore? A. Coming close to the land. 



Qi What distance from it? A. I could not exactly say, but it would 

 be 3 or 4 or 5 miles from it sometimes. 



