2496 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. You call 5 miles inshore ? A. Yes from where we would be fish- 

 ing, and we would go iu, may be half the distance between us and the 

 shore, and try. 



Q. Have you ever fished on American vessels ? A. No. 



Q. You say you have seen American vessels fishing ? A. Yes. 



Q. How near the shore ? A. I should say within the 3-mile limit 

 sometimes, and sometimes farther off 8 or 9 miles off. 



Q. Where did you see the larger number of them fishing ? A. I have 

 seen a very large fleet fishing on the ridges between Cape George, in the 

 fall of the year when I would be going to the islands. 



Q. How far from the coast! A. 8 or 9 miles as near as I can judge, 

 and I have seen them fishing closer to and along the shore. 



Q. Did you ever see a school of mackerel ? A. Yes ; and many a 

 one. 



Q. Where ? A. In all parts of the bay. 



Q. Near the shore or away from the shore ? A. Yes. 



Q. What are your brothers doing now ? A. One of them is fishing. 



Q. On his own account? A. Yesji 



Q. Which one is this? A. John. 



Q. Do you know whether he is fishing for cod or mackerel ? A. He 

 is cod-fishing. 



Q. Is that his usual occupation? A. Yes; he also goes herring 

 fishing. 



Q. With nets ? A. Yes. 



Q. Where did you take the barrel or half a barrel of mackerel which 

 you mention as having taken for bait ? A. Wherever we could find 

 them. Sometimes it was where we were fishing, and sometimes else- 

 where. 



Q. Where are herring generally taken ? A. Great quantities of them 

 are taken at the Magdalen Islands and at Anticosti, iu the spring. 



Q. How far from the shore? A. Along the shore, iu the harbors. 



Q. A few acres from the shore? A. Yes. 



Q. Have you been paid to come here? A. No. 



By Mr. Dana : 



Q. Did you come from home for the purpose of appearing here and 

 giving evidence ? A. No. 



Q. Had you any idea when you left home of coming here as a wit- 

 ness ? A. No, not in the least. 



Q. Did you then know, by the way, that the Commission was in ses- 

 sion ? A. No, I did not know the first thing about it until Mr. Mackasey 

 asked me my opinion on the matter; and that was before he spoke of 

 the Commission. 



Q. He asked you your opinion ? A. Yes; and what I thought about 

 it from my experience. 



Q. Mr. Mackasey lives here ? A. Yes. 



Q. And what did you tell him ? A. I told him what I thought of the 

 matter, as far as my experience went. 



Q. And then you came here? A. Yes. 



Q. Has anything been said to you by any one requesting you to tes- 

 tify to certain things, whether you believe them to be true or not ? A. 

 No, not in the least. 



Q. Nothing of the sort has occurred? A. No. 



Q. And if any such thing has been said, you would have left the man 

 that said it at once f A. Yes ; it would have been useless to have said 

 anything of the sort to me. 



