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man, in your judgment? A. I told you I thought he was, as far as I 

 know. 



Q. You refuse to answer whether you believe he would tell a lie under 

 oath? A. I refuse to answer the question. 



Q. Do you believe he would not tell a lie under oath ? A. That ques- 

 tion I do not answer. 



Q. Did you ever hear of his having been charged with telling a lie 

 under oath ? A. I do not answer that question. 



Q. Do you refuse to answer the question, whether you ever heard 

 that he had been charged with telling a lie under oath ? A. Not unless 

 the Commission enforces an answer. I don't wish to go into Mr. Mc- 

 Lean's character. 



Q. I insist on an answer to the question, whether you ever heard of 

 Mr. McLean being charged with telling a falsehood under oath. A. I 

 don't know he was ever under oath. 



Q. Did you ever hear any person say that he had made a misstate- 

 ment under oath ? A. I don't know that I ever did. 



Q. You don't remember having ever heard it said that Mr. McLean 

 had made a misstatement under oath ? A. Fishermen say that he is a 

 confounded story-teller; but you cannot always believe what they say. 

 They say he lies to them. I don't know. 



Q. Do you mean that he lied under oath ? A. I did not see him un- 

 der oath. I don't know or wish to say anything in regard to that. 



Q. You have said that the fishermen who take the fish out of the 

 water do not make much money ? A. I made that statement; that of 

 the men who caught fish with hook and line I never knew one to get 

 rich. 



Q. They have to deal with the fish merchants doing the same kind of 

 business you are doing. I suppose the fish merchants get the profits? 

 A. I don't know. I know a great many fish merchants who do not get 

 rich. 



Q. Did you ever know any who did ? A. I know that I carried it on 

 a long time and did not get rich. 



Q. Did you ever know any who did? A. In our vicinity? Yes, in 

 connection with other business. We have a number of firms who are 

 rich. 



Q. Yon never have visited the main land, except an incidental trip to 

 St. Andrews, because you say you were never in Pennfield, never at 

 Letite, and never in Lepreau? A. I never was in Lepreau more than 

 once or twice in my lite. 



Q. Have you been there within the last ten years ? A. I have not. 



Q. And yet, although you have never been on the main land, excepting 

 an incidental visit to St. Andrews, you undertake to put your opinion of 

 the catch on the main land against the opinion of a man like Mr. Mc- 

 Laughlin, whose special business it is to attend to the fishing off that 

 coast ? A. I do. 



Q. Do you know Mr. James Lord, of Deer Island ? A. Very well, in- 

 deed. I had a long conversation with him before he came down here. 

 Mr. James Lord has been buying hake sounds for me for six years. 



Q. He is a respectable man? A. I think so. 



Q. You do not think he would make a willful misstatement under 

 oath ? A. I don't think he would. All men are liable to mistakes and 

 to errors in judgment. 



Q. You admit you are liable to mistakes ? A. It may be so. You 

 may find men who won't agree with me. 



