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Q. Where does it run ? It is a river running into the bay ? A. Some 

 call it Quoddy River ; others call it Passamaquoddy Bay ; there are dif- 

 ferent names for it. 



Q. Pussamaquoddy Bay is above. A. Some people call it St. Andrew's 

 Bay ; it is always called St. Andrew's by the people with us. In fact, 

 there is no river by the name of Quoddy River. I know of no river by 

 the name of Quoddy River. 



Q. You have lived at Eastport all the time you have stated, and you 

 never heard of a salt-water current in the neighborhood of Deer Island 

 and Campobello bearing the name of Quoddy River f A. I did not 

 say so. A salt-water current and a river are two different things. A 

 river is supposed to be fresh water, though salt water may flow into it. 



Q. Is there not a salt-water current there commonly known as Quoddy 

 River ? A. Not by our people. 



Q. Do you know the stream called Quoddy River ? A. I know of no 

 stream called Quoddy River. I know where Quoddy is, and the entrance 

 to Quoddy Harbor. 



Q. I understand you that, though living so long at Eastport, in 

 close proximity to West Isles and Campobello, you never heard of the 

 sea-current called Quoddy River ?' A. I don't know it by that name. 



Q. What name do you know it by? A. On the way to Eastport, be- 

 tween Cherry Island and Campobello, and, in fact, all around Eastport 

 on both sides of it, the currents are very swift. There is a shallow place 

 we call the Ledges, which lies below Cherry Island, rather toward East- 

 port, where the tides of St. Andrew's Bay and Cobscook Bay, of which 

 Eastport forms the end, meet. If you ask fishermen where they are 

 going, they always say that they are going off to the Ledges.- They 

 will not tell you they are going to fish in Quoddy River. It is all Quoddy, 

 and it is all this bay ; but this particular point you are trying to come 

 at, this shoal piece of ground that lies right on the point as the two 

 swift currents come down by Moose Island, on which Eastport is built, 

 we call the Ledges altogether. 



Q. Will you tell me how you know those particular portions you have 

 described are what I mean by Quoddy River? A. I don't know any- 

 thing else you can mean. 



Q. For you never heard of Quoddy River ? A. I give you the bound- 

 aries of what I call Quoddy. 



Q. You said you never heard of Quoddy River ? A. I may have 

 beard of it, but our fishermen do not call it so. 



Q. Did you not tell me you never heard of Quoddy River ? A. You 

 asked me tf I knew of a swift salt-water current called Quoddy River, 

 and I told you I did not. 



Q. I asked you if you had heard of Quoddy River, and you told me 

 you never had. A. I don't remember what answer I made to that. 



Q. I ask you now, have you ever heard in your lifetime of what is 

 called Quoddy River ? A. I may by some people, but as a general thing 

 we don't call it that. 



Q. Have you ever heard of it ? A. I think it is likely I have. 



Q. Are you sure you have? A. I think it is likely I have. 



Q. Are you sure you have ? A. I could not name any man who said it. 



Q. Have you heard of it '? A. Let it go that I have. 



By Mr. Trescot: 



Q. You have been asked whether you undertake to contradict certain 

 testimony given by Mr. McLaughlin ; I want to call your attention to 

 some questions and answers to show whether you mean to contradict 



