2534 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



at the same time, I would not submit to his judgment in sucb regard 

 as being better than and superior to my own. 



Q. No doubt ; but with respect to matters about which you haVe no 

 personal knowledge you would not put your judgment, founded on mere 

 hearsay, against that of Mr. McLean ? A. Certainly not. 



No. 56. 



SYLVANUS SMITH, outfitter and vessel-owner, Gloucester, Mass., was 

 called on behalf of the Government of the United States, sworn, and ex- 

 amined. 



By Mr. Foster : 



Question. You have always lived in Gloucester, I believe ? Answer. 

 I formerly resided in Lockport, the adjoining town. 



Q. How old are you ? A. I am 48. 



Q. You began life as a fisherman ? A. Yes ; I was very young when 

 I first went fishing. 



Q. When did you first come to the Gulf of St. Lawrence ? A. In 

 1848. 



Q. Did you then come as sharestnan? A. Yes. 



Q. In what vessel ? A. The schooner Juniatta. 



Q. How long was your trip and how many barrels did you take ? 

 A. We were 3 months on the voyage, and we took 300 barrels, to the 

 best of my recollection. I have no record of that trip. 



Q. When did you next go to the gulf fishing? A. In 1851. 



Q. In what schooner ? A. The Wave. 



Q. As sharesman ? A. Yes. 



Q. How long were you on the trip ? A. Two and a half months. 



Q. How many barrels did you take ? A. 280 barrels. 



Q. Did you go fishing to the gulf fn 1852, and, if so, in what ca- 

 pacity ? A. I did ; I went as master. 



Q. In what vessel ? A. The E. C. Parsons. 



Q. What was her tonnage ? A. About 80 tons, carpenters' measure- 

 ment. 



Q. How many men were on board of her ? A. About 12, 1 think. 



Q. During how many years were you fishing successively in the E. 

 C. Parsons ! A. Four. 



Q. In what vessel did j^m next go ? A. The E. C. Smith. 



Q. What was her tonnage? A. About 105 or 110, I think. 



Q. How many men were on board of her ? A. 17. 



Q. During how many years were you in her ? A. 5, I think. 



Q. In what schooner did you next go ? A. The Kit Carson. 



Q. What was the number of men on board ? A. 19. 



Q. What was her tonnage? A. 145, or thereabouts. 



Q. How many years were you on her ? A. 4. I think. 



Q. Which was the last year when you were in the Gulf of St. Law- 

 rence as a fisherman ? A. 1864. 



Q. In preparing yourself to give testimony here, have you looked at 

 your books to ascertain the catches that were made on the different 

 vessels in which you were? A. Yes; I have carefully examined my 

 books and found these different catches. 



Q.'Have you the catches of all these years ? ^.. Yes, one excepted ;. 

 and I have the stock of that year, but not the number of barrels which 

 were then taken. 



Q. You were 13 yenrs in succession as skinner in th" Gulf of S 1 ". Law- 



