AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2537 



Q. Within what distance from the shore? A. We were off in the 

 mid^e of the bay. 1 could not give the exact distance. 



<}. Do you remember at all the width of the Bay of Chaleurs at that 

 point ? A. No ; but I should think that it was some 7 or 8 miles. 



Q. Were you ever in the Bay of Chaleurs during any other year? 

 A. I have been in there for a harbor frequently. 



Q. Where ? A. At Shippegan and Port Daniel. 



Q. Have you ever fished there, that year excepted ? A. No ; that 

 was the only year when I caught any fish there. 



Q. Did you at any other time try to fish there ? A. No ; I do not 

 know but that we might have done so when in a harbor, but I do not 

 recollect of having tried there; that is the only year when I ever caught 

 any fish in the Bay of Chaleurs to amount to anything. 



Q. What was tlie result of your fishing the second year you were in 

 the E. C. Smith ? A. We then caught G25 barrels ; that was in 1857. 



Q. How long were you out? A. 5^ months. We went out in the 

 very first of the season, and we staid the season -through. I went 

 away about the 1st of June or the last of May, and came out of the bay 

 in the last part of the season. 



Q. In November? A. Yes. 



Q. What was the result of your fishing in 1858 ? A. We then caught 

 550 barrels. 



Q. What length of time were you out ? A. During those years when 

 1 was exclusivejy fishing for mackerel we went into the bay in the 

 very first part of the season. 



Q. You have the stock for 1858 ; what was the average price per 

 barrel that year ? A. $9.44. The stock amounted to $5,200. 

 Q. Did you send any fish home that year ? A. I did not. 



Q. Did you do so in 1858 ? A. Well, I did not ship any home; I did 

 not land any to ship. 



Q. You brought the whole of the 550 barrels back with you ? A. One 

 year I shipped some with two of my brothers 100 barrels with one, and 

 180 barrels, I think, with both. I took them out in the bay, and I do 

 not know but 1858 was that year. 



Q. You transshipped them from one schooner to another in the bay ? 

 A. They took them on board there and I took their supplies ; that was 

 the first of my shipping mackerel home. 



Q. You think that may be the year, but you do not know ? A. I am 

 not certain about it, but I think that is the year. 



Q. What did you do in 1859? A. I caught then 250 barrels. 



Q. In what length of time? A. We were 5 months on that trip. 



Q. W'hat did you do in 1860 ? A. I was out 4 mouths and caught 220 

 barrels. 



Q. What did they stock at? A. $1,805.08; the average stock was 



Q. The next schooner you were in was the Kit Carson ; what did you 

 do in her! A. In 186 1, in the Kit Carson, I made a 4 months' trip. I 

 caught 520 barrels, and the average price was $4.43 ; stock, $2,303.02. 



Q. How long were you in the Gulf of St. Lawrence in 1862 f A. Five 

 months. 



Q. What did you catch ? A. Six hundred and four barrels. 



Q. Have you a memorandum concerning this trip ? *A. I have no 

 memorandum of the precise trip, but I have the number of barrels we 

 then caught, as taken from my pass-book, kept on the wharf; it is what 

 we call the tally-book. I have no memorandum concerning the precise 

 stock for that year. 



