2556 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. How much would these wharves cost, some of them ? A. Mine 

 cost me $25,000. Some are more expensive than mine, and some less. ~ 



Q. Have you ever known any cod-fishing vessel go prepared to catch 

 mackerel as well as cod, or of any mackerel vessel going prepared to catch 

 cod as well as mackerel mixed trips of that sort ? A. 1 never knew of 

 any. They might catch a barrel. 



Q. Your Gloucester halibut catchers go as far as Greenland or Iceland 

 sometimes ? A. Not for fresh, but salted halibut. 

 By Mr. Davies : 



Q. You spoke of the cost of your wharf as $25,000 ? A. Yes. 



Q. Is that an average ? A. I don't think that is an average. There 

 are some lower and some higher. 



Q. Your business premises, I suppose, would in value involve the out- 

 lay of a large sum of money besides that ? A. There is nothing con- 

 nected with the business but the wharf. 



Q. You do all your business on the wharf? A. That includes the 

 buildings on the wharf. Our store is just ou the upland. We include 

 that as part of our wharf. 



Q. How many vessels are you interested in now ? A. We own 14. 



Q. As matters go, the world has smiled very favorably on you. 

 That is so, is it not ? A. I have been considered one of the most suc- 

 cessful ones at the place. 



Q. What are the vessels worth apiece ? A. To day ? It would be a 

 very hard question to answer. 



Q. I don't mean to say if you were to force them upon the market. 

 But what do you value them at $7,000 ? A. That is one of the new 

 ones. Many of them have been running some 12 years and have run 

 down very materially in value some down to 81,500. 



Q. You built a new one in April ? A. Yes. 



Q. How many ? A. Just one this year. 



Q. What ones have been running 12 years? A. Well, we have sev- 

 eral of them that have been 12 years and some that have been running 18 

 years. 



Q. You have of course your premises besides these, where you re- 

 side I A. I have a place where I live. 



Q. Your partner too, I suppose ? A. He has not any house. 



Q. I think you said that, in your opinion, the influx of Canadian 

 mackerel did not very much affect the markets in the United States. 

 Do you say that? A. Well, not to any great extent. 



Q. I just want to know if you have examined the statistics with the 

 view to ascertain what proportion of the whole quantity of mackerel 

 consumed in the United States comes from Canada ? A. I have not. 



Q. Well, it would depend pretty much upon how you found the statis- 

 tics what your answer would be ? A. Well, not with regard to our own 

 catch ; the largeness or smallness of our own catch has made the price 

 higher or lower more than anything else ; I have watched that. 



Q. I quite understand that a large or small catch there would more or 

 less affect prices ; but supposing you examined the statistics and found 

 that one-third of the mackerel consumed came from Canadian waters, 

 would you then say that the importation of that quantity did not materi- 

 ally affect the market ? I will put it at one-fourth. A' It would affect 

 it up to a certain point ; beyond that, I think, the market would not take 

 them. 



Q. Well, would not the effect be to reduce the price ; the people would 

 take them if they went down low enough, wouldn't they ? A. When 

 mackerel gets at a low figure there is a great consumption. 



