AAVARD OP THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2563 



Q. That cannot be extra mackerel ? A. Extra mackerel, mess mack- 

 erel, it' a man had any, would be larger. 



Q. Well, I understand that is a theoretical statement, and I want to 

 test it in one or two ways. Now, if I take the prices as quoted in the 

 extract I have read, I find they would make a difference of $1,325 in 

 favor of the charterer ; or, deducting the loss which you state of $325, 

 there would be left a clear profit of $1,000, taking the Boston prices as 

 quoted. A. In^ my account I take the Gloucester rates, the wholesale 

 Gloucester rates actual sales which occurred at the time 1 came here, 

 and which I can verify. 



Q. What I say is, that if I made up the figures at these prices quoted, 

 not the highest, but the average for instance, instead of taking 

 the large No. 2's at $18, I leave them out altogether and take the 

 small ones at $14, and for the 3's I take the medium quality, not the 

 highest in this way allowing every charge that you put against the 

 vessel, I have a clear profit of $1,000. A. I have taken a trip of mack- 

 erel as I know they packed out. I would like to say one word more. 

 There is a difference between the grades in different towns. One town 

 will have a grade that will fetch more than another, and the brand does 

 not guarantee that the quality is there. I don't know about Prince 

 Edward Island. The grade may be very much higher, and the price 

 may be much higher. I have taken the actual value as the fish sold. 



Q. But this is your State inspection? A. That paper does not say so. 



Q. It says Prince Edward Island No. 1's. There is no inspection 

 there at all. A. That is the name of the mackerel. They are inspected 

 there. 



Q. No; they are not. Are not all mackerel that go into the United 

 States inspected ? Haven't they to submit to inspection by an officer 

 of the State ? A. 1 think the buyers inspect them. 



Q. Don't you know that they are all inspected by some official there? 

 A. 1 suppose they are. The buyers reiuspect them. 



Q. You are brought here as a man having an extensive acquaintance 

 with this matter, dealing largely in fish, and owning vessels. Do you 

 mean to say you don't know whether the mess-mackerel imported into 

 the United States are inspected by an official of the United States? 

 A. I never had any knowledge as to the mackerel from the provinces. 



Q. Do I understand that I could send mackerel in from the provinces 

 and put them on the market without having an inspection at all ? A. 

 I don't know anything about it. 



Q. How did you do with the mackerel you got here; was there not an 

 inspector of fish ? A. Yes. 



Q. Did he not inspect them under a State law f A. Yes. 



Q. Are you not compelled to submit to that? A. We do. 



Q. Have you any doubt that that applies to all mackerel ? A. I sup- 

 pose it does. I don't know what international law there may be with 

 regard to it. There may be an international law that the fish, being 

 admitted free of duty, are admitted without inspection. I know noth- 

 ing about that. 



Q. Now, we have had witnesses here to state positively, as I under- 

 stood, that the mackerel which came from the bay and the mackerel 

 which came from your shores were assorted and branded, and the same 

 brands put upon both by the State inspector. I may be wrong, but I 

 understood the evidence in that way. A. I don't know that I under- 

 stand you. Do you say that all qualities were branded alike ? 



Q. Xo; but that the mackerel are taken and assorted and marked 



