2570 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Did you ever fish round Bonaventure ? A. I never caught any 

 there. 



Q. You never tried there much ? A. No. 



Q. And I believe you tried only once in Bay Cbaleurs ? A. I caught 

 on one trip 50 barrels in Bay Chaleurs. 



Q. Where was those taken f A. Somewhere off Paspebiac. 



Q. Upon the south side of Bay Chaleurs ? A. On the north side. 



Q. You went in within three miles of the shore ? A. I don't know. 

 I was out in the bay ; I don't know where. 



Q. You said at first you were not within three miles of the shore. 

 A. I don't know what distance I was from land ; I was out in the mid- 

 dle of the bay. I don't know whether we were within the three mile 

 limit or not. I don't know whether the bay at that point was ten miles 

 wide ; it might be six. I don't know and I had no reason to care 

 whether I was within the three-mile limit or not. It was in 1856, 1 think, 

 during the Reciprocity Treaty. 



Q. The chances are, then, that you went inside ? A. I don't know 

 about that. I went where the fish were. 



Q. Did you make Bay Chaleurs a resort? A. I never was there much. 

 I was there sometimes for a harbor. 



Q. And when you were in for a harbor, you did not try to fish there! 

 A. I did not try to fish there ; I have seen others try. 



Q. Did you fish down the west shore of New Brunswick much ? A. 

 I have fished there. 



Q. Within three miles of shore ? A. No. 



Q. I think around Prince Edward Island you never fished within 

 three miles of shore? A. Not much around the island. 



Q. Round Gape Breton you fished every fall, more or less? A. Mostly 

 every fall, more or less ; late in the fall. 



Q. And you caught mackerel off Margaree, sometimes one mile and 

 sometimes three or four miles off? A. Yes. 



Q. And every fall you got more or less off Cape Breton shore ? A. 

 A small portion I caught there. I might have caught in all my picking 

 perhaps one-tenth of all my mackerel there. One year, I think, the 

 last year I was there, I caught from 75 to 100 barrels there. 



Q. I think you said you could not recollect what proportion ? A. I 

 cannot tell positively; I should judge I caught that proportion. I have 

 no record. 



Q. You have no record and it is fourteen years since you were there. 

 Have you heard from the captains of your vessels whether the habits 

 of the fish of late years have changed, and that they are now found 

 nearer the shore than they used to be ? A. I have not' heard that. 



Q. Have you not heard it at all in any way? A. I never heard that 

 the fish had changed their localities. 



Q. Have you ever heard in any way of late years that the fish in the 

 Gulf of St. Lawrence are found closer to the shores than they used to 

 be? A. I have not. I have two vessels there and I hear from them 

 every week. They have not found any near the shore, or anywhere else. 



Q. Some years yon say you caught your fish everywhere, and you did 

 not make any large catch? A. One year we had a very hard season. 

 We were fishing all over the bay. 



Q. Did you ever see a large fleet down at Port Hood ? A. Yes. 



Q. How many American vessels have you seen there? A. I never 

 counted them. I should think I have seen 200 sail ; perhaps 150. 



Q. They would be there on the same mission as you? A. They 

 usually come there when bound home ; they stop there. 



