AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2579 



Q. Did you take many at Pigeon Hill grounds ? A. I think about 

 75 barrels, to the best of my recollection. 



Q. Did that fill the schooner? A. Very nearly. We then workted 

 a little to the eastward on to Bank Bradley again, and there made up 

 our voyage. 



Q. You had then got a full fare ? A. Yes. 



(}. When fishing at what you call Pigeon Hill grounds, how near were 

 you to the shore? A. We were just in sight of Pigeon Hill on a clear 

 day ; if it was a thick day we could not see it. 



Q. How far from the shore ? A. I should suppose twelve miles, to 

 the best of my knowledge. 



Q. Then upon that voyage you never were within three miles of the 

 shore at all ? A. Not whilst fishing. 



Q. You then went direct back to the States I A. Yes ; to Gloucester. 



Q. You did not fish any at that time on the shores of Cape Breton or 

 Margaree ? A. Not any that voyage. 



Q. How many barrels did your schooner carry with a full cargo ? A. 

 About 240 barrels is what we could carry conveniently. 



Q. The next trip was made at what, time ? A. We got back to Mag- 

 dalen Islands at the last of September. 



Q. How many did you get on that trip ? A. 85 barrels. 



Q. Are those all you got ! A. Yes. 



Q. Those quantities make 325 barrels for the season not 240 ? On 

 the first trip your schooner, which could carry about 240 barrels, got a 

 full fare ? A. I meant to tell you that in both trips we got 240 barrels. 



Q. Did you not tell me that you got a full cargo on your first trip ? 

 A. Probably I did ; if I did, I made a mistake. 



Q. Tben, on your first trip you did not get a full fare ? A. No. 



Q. May I ask you why, not having got a full fare on either Bank 

 Bradley or Pigeon Hill ground, you did not try Bank Orphan ? A. We 

 did try as long as we were able to try, on account of the lateness of the 

 season. 



Q. I am speaking of the first trip ? A. I mean the first trip. We 

 st<i\ed as long as we had any provisions, it being late in the season. 



Q. What do you call late in the season ? A. We had only got time 

 to go home and get back again. As I have said, it was late in Septem- 

 ber before we returned tor the second trip. 



Q. You got short of provisions ? A. Yes. 



Q. And without waiting to get a full cargo, being short of provisions, 

 you proceeded home ? A. Yes. 



Q. You did not think proper to try round the shores of Prince Ed- 

 ward Island ? A. We had not time for one reason. 



Q. You had not time to try off Cape Breton ? A. No, not on the first 

 trip. 



Q. How many barrels did you take on the first trip ? A. About 130 

 bai ids, to the best of my recollection. 



Q. That was not by 110 barrels sufficient to make a full cargo ? A. 

 No. 



Q. Still you did not try within three miles any where, and that was at 

 a time when you were not prohibited from coming within three miles of 

 >lmi\- ? A. No ; we could go anywhere. 



<,>. Was it not singular that you did not try within the three miles! 

 A. I had not been accustomed to fish within three miles of the land at 

 that time. 



<>. Take the next year, 1860. Did you go into the bay that year ! 

 A. Yes. 



