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. Q. Why did you ran back to Port Hood instead of running across to 

 Banks Bradley and Orphan? A.. It was bad weather windy weather. 



Q. Was that the* reason you went away to Magdalen Islands ? A. 

 Yrs. 



Q. DJ you think the Magdalen Islands a sife plac3 ? A.. It is in the 

 summer season, not when it gets windy. 



Q. What time does it become unsafe! A. After 1st October it gets 

 to be very windy, and there are very few days when yon can fish. 



(}. Do you call Magdalen Islands as dangerous as any place in the 

 gulf! A. It is not so dangerous as to the loss of the vessel 'but it blows 

 so hard in October that it is difficult to fish there. 



Q. Why is it not dangerous if it blows so hard? A. You can always 

 make a lee under the islands. 



(}. Then there is no danger of the loss of life or vessel at Magdalen 

 Islands? A. I did not say there is no danger. 



Q. Comparatively small danger? A. We can always sail to the lee- 

 ward of the islands, so that the wind will blow off the land. 



Q. Why did you not go to the leeward of the islands and fish ? A. 

 It blows so hard we cannot fish very often. 



. Q. Would not the water to the leeward be comparatively calm ? A. 

 It would blow so hard it would be impossible to fish; it often blows so 

 hard it is impossible to fish. 



Q. Yet you call that a safe place for a vessel ? A. Safe in regard to 

 life and property. 



Q. Do I understand that Magdalen Islands are safer or as safe as 

 any other place in the gulf in September and October ? A. As safe, I 

 think, in September. 



Q. And in October ? A. It is not as safe for property as some other 

 places. 



Q. Would you prefer, as a matter of safety, to be fishing off Prince 

 Edward Island in October than off Magdalen Islands ? A. That would 

 depend on what part of Prince Edward Island I was at. 



Q. Take the north part ? A. I should prefer Magdalen Islands. 



Q. Take East Point ? A. East Point is a long way from any harbor 

 or any place to make a lee. 



Q. Souris Harbor is close by ? A. Souris Harbor is not a safe har- 

 bor. 



Q. Is there no safe harbor, as far as you are aware, on the north side 

 of the island ! A. Malpeque is a safe harbor if you can go in in the 

 day-time and before the wind has been long blowing on shore. 



Q. How about Cascumpeque and Rustico ? A. Cascumpeque is not a 

 safe harbor. 



Q. Nor is Rustico, I suppose ? A. I never was in Rustico ; I know 

 of no Gloucester vessels that go in there. 



Q. Have you been at Cascumpeque since the Dominion Government 

 has expended money on the harbor ? A. I don't know that I have ; it 

 is six or seven years since I was there, to the best of my knowledge. 



Q. You don't know that at Souris there is a large breakwater, which 

 cost $60,000 or $70,000 ? A. I have heard so ; I have not been there 

 since it was built. 



Q. On this trip in 1860 you did not fish inshore at all when you made 

 the trip to Port Hood ? A. Only at Port Hood and near there j we 

 might not have been exactly at Port Hood, but very near it. 



Q. How many did you get ? A. A few barrels at Port Hood. 



Q. Your whole cargo that time was how many ? A. Two hundred 

 and twenty-five barrels. 



