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you would have lost money if you had had full fares, instead of full 

 fares within 50 barrels! A.. There is other fishing connected with it. 

 Some years there is a loss with other fishing connected with it cod- 

 fishing. 



Q. A loss with cod-fishing as well? A. Some years, at some times. 



Q. As a practical fisherman, do you state that the inshore fishing at 

 Prince Edward Island, Cape Breton, along the shore of New Brunswick 

 and Quebec, are of no use to United States people ? A. Do you speak 

 of Prince Edward Island in particular? 



Q. I will take all the inshore waters of Cape Breton, Prince Edward 

 Island, New Brunswick, and Gaspe", and along the south shore of Lab- 

 rador. Do you say that those inshore fisheries are practically no use to 

 United States fishermen ? A. I would not say they are no use to Amer- 

 ican fishermen. 



Q. Do they make money by having access to them, or do they lose 

 money for if they lose money by them the fisheries are practically 

 of no use ? A. From my own experience, they have never been much 

 benefit to me. 



Q. Have they been any benefit to you ? A. I have caught a few 

 mackerel there occasionally. I might have caught as many somewhere 

 else, perhaps, if I had been at another fishing-ground. 



Q. I want your judgment as to whether those inshore fisheries are 

 practically of any use whatever? A. I should say they are very little 

 benefit to me, if I was going fishing again. 



Q. That is not the question. You are a practical man, and you seem 

 a fair man, and I want your opinion as to whether you think that the 

 privilege of fishing inshore, within 3 miles, is of any use to United States 

 fishermen. A. I think they were not any great use. That is as fair as 

 I can answer your question. 



Q. \ou admit they are of some use and benefit? A. Yes. I have 

 caught some fish there a few. 



Q. All the fish you admit having caught within the 3 miles amount 

 to nothing. Half the time you did not try to fish inshore? A. As a 

 general thing I did not try to fish there. Some years I have tried to 

 fish there. 



Q. Tell me what practical use it is to the United States. Is it of any 

 use at all ? A. Some other vessels may have fished there more than I 

 did. 



, Q. Have you heard of any vessels being more fortunate than you in 

 fishing within 3 miles of the shore ? A. I think I have heard of vessels 

 which have taken more fish inshore than I have. 



Q. Have you heard of American vessels taking large fares within 3 

 miles of the shore, not including Magdalen Islands? A. I think I have 

 heard of vessels getting considerable mackerel on the Cape Breton 

 shore. 



Q. You have not heard of them getting considerable mackerel along 

 the coast ot Prince Edward Island ? A. Not large fares inside of the 

 3 mile line. 



Q. Then, practically, in your judgment, it is not worth while for the 



United States to make a fight about getting in there to fish ? All the 



trouble is really sentimental. United States fishermen get on just as 



well with the right to fish in the gulf, keeping away from 3 miles of the 



coast ? A. I don't think it is worth while to make a great fight about it. 



Q. You think it would not ? A. It would not. 



Q. Are you aware whether these are the views of fishermen at 

 Gloucester and Boston, that really the privilege of fishing inshore in 



